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[Sansa Clip+] A better shortcut to return to WPS
Llorean:
--- Quote from: pabouk on September 05, 2011, 09:21:38 AM ---Maybe it is not the most common usage of Rockbox: I listen to podcasts. Sometimes I have to stop/pause playback and later resume where I stopped. I do this several times a day in many situations and I think to be able to stop/resume using a single hand without looking at the display is very important and convenient.
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That isn't exactly what I asked. I asked why you needed to bookmark while cycling. It's perfectly possible to pause and resume all you want with one hand. I do it all the time. Pausing still only requires one button. It's stopping that I asked about, and that's a somewhat different situation.
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--- Quote from: Llorean ---The H100 has an extra button to spare for this.
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Not really. H100 has "extra button" A-B while Sansa Clip+ has "extra button" HOME.
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The H100 also has a dedicate Play/Pause button that's separate from the navigation controls (via the stick) where the Clip+ does not. It's the "Play/Pause" button I was referring to. If you'll notice people are suggesting that the "Home" button contain some of the functionality of the "A-B" button and some of the functionality of the "Play/Pause" button, where it currently just contains the functionality of the "A-B" button.
--- Quote ---OK, fair enough. I did not know about the effort of Rockbox to map special buttons (like HOME) to actions of a similar meaning. As far as I know on H100 there was not the function the HOME button on Clip+ offers. Contrary the return to WPS/resume playback function on H100 was very useful for me.
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Like I said above, the "A-B" button on the H100 and the "Home" button on the Clip+ basically do the exact same thing, or should. They both functionally serve the purpose of a "menu" button. The main problem is that in the menus there isn't a spare button to do what the "Play/Pause" button on the H100 does.
pabouk:
I am sorry. I forgot about the useful dedicated Play/Pause button on H100 so I confused it with A-B...
Now when I know that the bug of power off during pause was resolved I will start to use pause but still there is no single-button control for resuming playback after the player has been turned off.
Llorean:
--- Quote from: pabouk on September 05, 2011, 04:55:00 PM ---I am sorry. I forgot about the useful dedicated Play/Pause button on H100 so I confused it with A-B...
Now when I know that the bug of power off during pause was resolved I will start to use pause but still there is no single-button control for resuming playback after the player has been turned off.
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Why would you turn the player off and back on again while doing something that requires at at least one of your hands the whole time?
The Clip+ is capable of sitting for the major part of an entire day on pause. You can just disable the idle power off if you wish to be able to resume with a single button press.
mfe555:
New proposal for WPS:
"left" is currently doing nothing in the top level of the menu. Why don't we use that to exit the menu, going back to where you've been? Many users associate "left" with "back".
"home" in the menu would then be free to be used to go to the WPS. Thus pressing "home" twice would bring you from the playlist to the WPS (via the menu), without the necessity of detecting double presses or long presses.
"home" -> main menu
"left" from main menu -> back to where you've been
"home" from main menu -> WPS
Llorean:
--- Quote from: mfe555 on September 06, 2011, 02:43:26 AM ---"left" is currently doing nothing in the top level of the menu. Why don't we use that to exit the menu, going back to where you've been? Many users associate "left" with "back".
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Currently Rockbox stops in one place if you keep hitting left (the main menu) and blind users find this helpful since it's impossible to accidentally go too many levels "up" and cause something unexpected to happen. You'd lose this benefit to the blind users (which has been commented on as helpful in the past) if left were made to do something else in the main menu.
Most button assignments, including buttons that do nothing, were made for a reason. That's why I keep asking about how bad the situation is, and real world cases where this single button to WPS is so important, since it will *have* to displace an existing function or feature if it's just going to be a keymap change, and if that's the case, the case would benefit from having a case to be made for why it's more than simply an issue of convenience.
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