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[Sansa Clip+] A better shortcut to return to WPS

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Llorean:

--- Quote from: lolmaus on September 01, 2011, 01:55:18 PM ---Llorean, on OF i used to press Next to switch to next track. I believe it's perfectly safe.

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Rockbox is not the OF. It would be practically impossible to browse Rockbox while reserving the Next/Prev keys for track navigation. The fact that you believe it's perfectly safe is the error here. One could just as easily say "I expect Play/Pause to always Pause." The fact that you don't wish to learn how to use Rockbox is not a compelling reason to change how Rockbox works. Return to the WPS when you're done with non-WPS functions and you'll have no problems. You don't *need* to do a finger trick to change tracks, you need to do it if you're out of the WPS and desire for some reason to return to the WPS without looking at your player or using the voice UI. Just like you'd need to press a button with your proposed solution as well. If you learn to return to the WPS after you're done outside it, you'll never have a situation that you'd have with *both* implementations - that of pressing Next Track and having something unexpected happen.

Meanwhile if you get into the habit of not returning to the WPS, "next track" could start a new playlist, or change a setting, or do other things. It's simply not a wise idea for you to get into the habit of pressing it without knowing the state of your device, independently of your suggestion for changing the controls. "I do things I shouldn't do, so you should change the controls in a way that doesn't even make them less harmful" is hardly a strong argument.

mfe555:
Short form: The Rockbox behaviour is reasonable, but some users would like it to be more comfortable.

Llorean:

--- Quote from: saratoga on September 01, 2011, 01:37:43 PM ---This seems like an acceptable change, although I'm not sure if we allow double click button actions?

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Although it's not what he suggested, it does seem a better alternative than the current two-button method. We used to have short then long "next" to skip folders. I don't see why short then long "home" couldn't be "resume playback."

saratoga:

--- Quote from: mfe555 on September 01, 2011, 01:42:56 PM ---I was not proposing a double click action. Actually in the OF this works even with a long time between the two clicks.

The first press takes you from the file list (or elsewhere) to the main menu, the second press exits the menu into the WPS.

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Since home already brings you back to whatever your previous screen was, thats probably not going to be acceptable. 

pabouk:

--- Quote from: Llorean on September 01, 2011, 01:43:36 PM ---I'd suggest not to leave the WPS while cycling...
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Llorean, sometimes you have to leave the WPS. The most frequent example in my case is stopping playback. (I cannot use pause as it does not store bookmark when the player turns off automatically after a delay.) I think there should be simple way how to get to the WPS and how to resume playback.

IMHO the current function of the home button which alternates between two location is not so useful. I almost do no use it and I was always wondering who considers the alternating function so useful. In the past I was using Rockbox on H100 series and there was a single button for resuming playback/going to the WPS.


--- Quote from: Llorean on September 01, 2011, 02:09:58 PM ---Although it's not what he suggested, it does seem a better alternative than the current two-button method. We used to have short then long "next" to skip folders. I don't see why short then long "home" couldn't be "resume playback."
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Good idea.

By the way: do you think it is useful to have both stop and pause on flash players? I think pause is unnecessary as resuming playback is instantaneous on such players.

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