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[Sansa Clip+] A better shortcut to return to WPS

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mfe555:
I was not proposing a double click action. Actually in the OF this works even with a long time between the two clicks.

The first press takes you from the file list (or elsewhere) to the main menu, the second press exits the menu into the WPS.

Llorean:

--- Quote from: mfe555 on September 01, 2011, 01:30:47 PM ---Could it be made configurable where exiting the menu takes you?

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You missed my point. You can't exit the menu. You can open other things from the menu, but there's no "exit." It's the bottom level.


--- Quote from: lolmaus on September 01, 2011, 01:32:30 PM ---You try to get to WPS by choosing the appropriate menu item, but you can't find it. You put the player next to your eyes but your hand is shaking as you move and you can barely see the items. Finally you get cursor to the WPS menu item... ah, a baby on the road! You crash.

--- End quote ---

I'd suggest not to leave the WPS while cycling. Or learn about the voice UI if you insist in entering menus while doing something that requires your sight. Why would you be in them if you're in a situation where it's unsafe? If you've just accidentally pressed "home" from the WPS pressing it a second time takes you back. The only time it doesn't work to take you back is if you've been browsing outside the main menu, which you shouldn't be while cycling in the first place (and if you are, surely if you can browse and select songs, you can browse and select a menu entry).

Just as an added note, I personally have absolutely no problems returning to the WPS with the current setup. As a tip, flip the clip over so that your thumb is on the back and place one finger over "home" and one over "select." Yes, I realize this isn't a very normal way of holding the device, but you're trying to do it one handed while riding a bicycle. You'll have to do it by feel anyway, and it's pretty trivial to do it this way.

Currently pressing the home button once takes you back to the main menu, and a second time returns you to wherever you were just at. In many cases, if you accidentally left the WPS you can just return immediately to it.

mfe555:

--- Quote from: Llorean on September 01, 2011, 01:43:36 PM ---You missed my point. You can't exit the menu. You can open other things from the menu, but there's no "exit." It's the bottom level.
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I agree. Nevertheless pressing "menu" when you are in the menu can trigger an action. I'd be happy if that was going to the WPS, or if it was configurable, for example

(a) go to WPS when "menu" key pressed in main menu
(b) when "menu" key pressed in main menu, go to whatever was active before the menu was entered

I think (b) is the current implementation?

Post Merge: September 01, 2011, 01:54:05 PMBy pressing "select" during playback you can enter the file list. If, after browsing, you decide not to change to a new track, the only way of getting back to the playback screen without interrupting the song being played is to navigate to the main menu and select 'Now Playing'.

So, (c): when "menu" key pressed in main menu, go to whatever was active before the menu was entered, BUT go to the WPS if the file list was active when the menu was entered

Probably too complicated, but I think that is the OF behaviour.

Llorean:
Yes. And Rockbox controls are not traditionally configurable. It's more likely to be simply changed than made configurable. But as I said, in most cases of an accidental press you can return to the WPS. In the cases of an intentional press, returning to the WPS already isn't hard. It's not a particularly strong reason to make an exception for this one device.

lolmaus:
Llorean, on OF i used to press Next to switch to next track. I believe it's perfectly safe.

On Rockbox, i can't do that. The player might be in different modes. This fact forces me to investigate in what mode it currently is prior to doing anything.

This is wrong. Donald Norman "The Design of Everyday Things" or Victor Papanek "Design for the Real World" both state that it's a very bad idea.

Why should someone need to do a finger trick to obtain an ability to switch to next track? That's ridiculous.

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