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Offline zomgbear

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Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« on: August 20, 2011, 02:20:02 PM »
So recently i installed the newest firmware of Rockbox (3.9) on my Clip+.  I love it, but for some reason, whenever i plug the clip+ into my computer to add something to it,  it resets my firmware back to the original clip+ firmware and reconfigs my usb settings to AUTO.

I keep having to reinstall the bootloader everytime i plug it into my computer...
Is there a way to stop this?
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 02:56:54 PM »
Are you sure that's necessary?  Are you inserting the cable while Rockbox is running or while it's powered down?  If you turn the player off and on again does it not boot into Rockbox?
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Offline zomgbear

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 03:53:19 PM »
when i remove it from my computer - it's as if bootloader has never been installed.  It ignores the rockbox firmware and goes straight into the original firmware. 

I usually insert cable when it's powered down i believe.
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 07:05:46 PM »
Quote from: zomgbear on August 20, 2011, 03:53:19 PM
I usually insert cable when it's powered down i believe.

Which (unless I'm wrong, but I think this is the case for the clip+) will make the Rockbox bootloader load the Sandisk firmware.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 07:54:03 PM »
It will stay in the original firmware after a USB session.  Did you try manually powering it down and then booting it again?
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Offline arj446

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2011, 07:26:46 PM »
Quote from: Chronon on August 22, 2011, 07:54:03 PM
It will stay in the original firmware after a USB session.  Did you try manually powering it down and then booting it again?

I have the same "issue" and yes, powering down and booting again does work : you return to Rockbox.

The fact that the Clip+ is turned on or off when you plug the player doesn't change anything : when you unplug, the Clip+ turns on automatically as if it was the first time you were running it.

Not a major issue, but not too convenient either.
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 07:43:09 PM »
Quote from: arj446 on August 28, 2011, 07:26:46 PM
The fact that the Clip+ is turned on or off when you plug the player doesn't change anything : when you unplug, the Clip+ turns on automatically as if it was the first time you were running it.

This is intentional so that you can use the Sandisk firmware for USB mode . . .
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Offline arj446

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2011, 12:08:01 AM »

K cool, thanks for the info !

Post Merge: August 29, 2011, 09:35:45 AM

Actually, have you guys ever thought of a GRUB kind of thing that would allow users, when turning their device on, to choose whether you wanna boot on RockBox or the device's original firmware ?
« Last Edit: August 29, 2011, 09:35:45 AM by arj446 »
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Offline tpijag

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2011, 11:18:17 AM »
Don't know what a Grub thing is, but I do know what docs are  ;)
From the manual for your unit, available from the left side menu
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3.1.3  Starting the original firmware

Rockbox has a dual-boot feature. To boot into the original firmware, press and hold the Left button while turning on the player.

The player will always boot into the original firmware if it is powered by a USB connection. When Rockbox USB support is officially stable, a new bootloader will be released changing this behavior.
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Offline arj446

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Re: Clip+ Rockbox firmware disappearing
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2011, 11:44:24 AM »

Arf... OK, I'll go read the manual...

Thanks again.

BTW, GRUB is a multiboot for Linux.
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