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Offline riksweeney

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Reducing treble?
« on: August 19, 2011, 04:40:39 AM »
(It might not be the treble, so let me describe the problem)

My current set of headphones make the audio quite harsh in places, mainly when an artist is signing anything with an 's' in it. The word is really emphasised and is sometimes very jarring.

Is there anything I can set in Rockbox to soften this? Of course I could buy another set of headphones, but I run the risk of the same thing happening and they're not exactly cheap these days.
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Re: Reducing treble?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 05:54:13 PM »
Quote from: riksweeney on August 19, 2011, 04:40:39 AM
<snip>My current set of headphones make the audio quite harsh in places...</snip>

<snip>Is there anything I can set in Rockbox to soften this?...</snip>

The obvious solution to this would be....(get ready for the surprise here ;))...reducing the trebel.


You can achieve this by either:

Settings - Sound Settings - Trebel
(set this to a negative value)

or,

Settings - Sound Settings - Equalizer* - (either) Graphical EQ/Simple EQ Settings/Advanced EQ Settings
(lower the value of the High Shelf Filter)


*Make sure the EQ is enabled, otherwise you can adjust these settings until the cows come home and it'll have no effect.
To enable the EQ:

Settings - Sound Settings - Equalizer - Enable EQ - Yes



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EDIT: Sarcasm added for humorous effect, definitely not "I'm a typical arrogant forum-snob that feels a sense of superiority" :D
« Last Edit: August 19, 2011, 06:05:25 PM by [St.] »
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Re: Reducing treble?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 07:58:52 PM »
And the shocking misspelling of "treble" added for...? :)
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Re: Reducing treble?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 04:47:38 AM »
Ah, OK. I can't set the treble to a negative value on my build, but I haven't updated for years since it's stable and I'm happy with it. Perhaps I should have a look at the latest release.

(iRiver H120)

Thanks!
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Re: Reducing treble?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 11:19:23 AM »
If it's mainly the S it may also simply be that your recordings are of too low bitrate/quality.
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Re: Reducing treble?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2011, 05:28:05 PM »
Llorean is likely right, as sibilance is a common low-bitrate artifact.

That said, sibilance is typically found between 3k and 7k hertz, so that is where you would want to target an EQ notch attempt. 

That said2 3-7k is also smack in the middle of human sensitivity, so any EQing in that range of enough magnitude to reduce sibilance will also likely color the sound of music to a noticeable, and unpleasant, degree. 

If you are lucky you have a narrow harsh resonance in your current headphones and a single peaking band of the EQ (do not use the shelf filter! ("cut narrow, boost wide" is the ancient rule-of-thumb)) can be found to cancel it out.  Here is how I would attack the problem:

1 - Create a test track which contains nothing but really nasty sibilance.
2 - Play it in a repeating loop.
3 - Create a custom EQ setting with a gain of -9 (or so) dB, q factor of 24 and center frequency of 3k.
4 - Listen to your test track, and slowly move the center frequency up to 7k or so.  Maybe as high as 10k, but I bet lower.
5 - Once you find the most effective frequency for cutting the annoying sound play with more or less cut (gain) and a wider (lower q) or narrower (higher q) curve, trying to find the optimum balance between artifact removal and negative consequences on the other audio.
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