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UMS devices need to be unmounted properly!!

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pwabrahams:
Several times I've tried updating the Rockbox software via the Utility and got a parity error when I tried to restart my device (Sansa Clip+).   I finally discovered why.   The Utility indicates that the process is complete, especially since there's an OK button to click.  But it isn't.  There's more writing to be done.  If I wait for a while, I see the device flash "Connecting" a couple of times, then flash "Writing", then flash "Connecting" again.  It's necessary to wait until all writing is complete before restarting the device.   The problem is that aside from that one message -- which you might never see if you restart too quickly -- there's no indication that the process is incomplete.  Even then, there's no specific indication that you're done.  You just have to wait a while until you see several Connectings in a row without a Writing.

This was a lesson painfully learned.  I wonder if there's a way to save others from experiencing this problem.

saratoga:

--- Quote from: pwabrahams on August 14, 2011, 05:41:55 PM ---The Utility indicates that the process is complete, especially since there's an OK button to click.  But it isn't.  There's more writing to be done.  If I wait for a while, I see the device flash "Connecting" a couple of times, then flash "Writing", then flash "Connecting" again.  It's necessary to wait until all writing is complete before restarting the device. 
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Yes, thats how USB devices work on Windows and linux.  You have to to unmount/eject them before disconnecting.  If you don't, not everything gets written and your files will be corrupted as you've learned.   

yapper:
Under Windows it is possible to "Optimize for performance" or "Optimize for quick removal". Using the latter option disable write caching

bluebrother:
This is NOT a "Utility Hazard", that is completely nonsense. It has NOTHING to do with Rockbox Utility.

This is simply how computers work: all modern Operating Systems do write caching (not only Windows and Linux as already mentioned but also Mac OS X). You should NEVER remove a drive without "safely remove"ing it first -- CD drives have a button you press so the OS knows you're going to remove it. USB drives don't, so you need to tell the system somehow about it (like by using the icon in the systray on Windows).


--- Quote from: pwabrahams on August 14, 2011, 05:41:55 PM ---This was a lesson painfully learned.  I wonder if there's a way to save others from experiencing this problem.

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Sure: by not allowing people to use a computer that lack basic knowledge about how it works. You wouldn't be surprised to cut yourself with a razor if you use it improperly, wouldn't you? And it wouldn't be a hazard with the shaving foam, would it?

And speaking about programs again, there is no (simple) way for a program to tell if a file is actually written to disk or still in the OS cache -- a program shouldn't care about that, so there's not much a normal application can do about this. And Rockbox Utility doesn't tell to immediately remove the drive for several reasons (you might want to install other stuff or copy music anyway ...)

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