Some ogg do not play

[OxonOwl]

I guess this might have been asked before. i searched but didn't find

I have just a couple of albums ripped to ogg that play ok on the pc and under the Cowon D2 original firm ware but just skip from track to track under Rockbox.

I have hundreds of albums of ogg that play ok an just a couple that don't

Any ideas?

TIA

[bluebrother]

Do the problematic files have ID3 tags?

[OxonOwl]

Not sure and not sure how to tell.

[saratoga]

Post a link to one and I'll tell you.

[OxonOwl]

Can't you just tell me. I may need to check in the future.

thanks

[saratoga]

Can't you just tell me. I may need to check in the future.

thanks

I open with them with a hex editor and flip through the file until I find tags.

[OxonOwl]

OK i have a file open with a Hex editor and I have searched for ID3 but I can't tell whether they are tags or not.

[saratoga]

OK i have a file open with a Hex editor and I have searched for ID3 but I can't tell whether they are tags or not.

Assuming you're still committed to fixing this file without accepting any help at all, you can find a specification for various tag formats on google. 

[evilnick]

Alternatively, if you use a decent tag editing program (of which google can provide many) then it ought to be able to tell you the format of the tags.

Vorbis files should use vorbis comments, not id3 tags.

[OxonOwl]

Assuming you're still committed to fixing this file without accepting any help at all, you can find a specification for various tag formats on google. 

I have accepted the little help that has been given. It seems a bit pointless having a forum where you hope to get questions answered when the suggestion is to google it
Post Merge: August 09, 2011, 04:31:08 PM

Alternatively, if you use a decent tag editing program (of which google can provide many) then it ought to be able to tell you the format of the tags.

Vorbis files should use vorbis comments, not id3 tags.

Thanks

I have looked at couple that didn't actually state what type the tags were. I am currently looking at something called Ultra Tag Editor. It is still not very clear whether there are ID3 tags.

There options to clear ID3v1 and ID3v2. ID3v1 sits and doesn't seem to do anything. ID3v2 flashes a dialog very quickly as if it has nothing to do.

This makes no difference to the playability under Rockbox
Post Merge: August 09, 2011, 04:33:49 PM

...decent tag editing program (of which google can provide many) ...

Google provides many indeed. Are then any you would recommend?

[saratoga]

Assuming you're still committed to fixing this file without accepting any help at all, you can find a specification for various tag formats on google. 

I have accepted the little help that has been given.

Really?

Post a link to one and I'll tell you.

Did I miss the part where you sent me the file?  Because I'm willing to just look at the file and tell you whats wrong with it.  All you have to do is let me help you

It seems a bit pointless having a forum where you hope to get questions answered when the suggestion is to google it

No, it seems pointless to ask whats wrong with a file, and then refuse to let anyone look at the file.  Seriously, until you post a link theres little chance anyone can tell you whats wrong unless its something really simple (e.g. you put the wrong tags on the files).  Realistically, if you wanted help, you probably should have posted the file when you started the thread

[Lear]

I have accepted the little help that has been given. It seems a bit pointless having a forum where you hope to get questions answered when the suggestion is to google it

Just checking if the Ogg file has an ID3(v2) tag or not is easy. If the file starts with an ID3 tag, the first three bytes are "ID3". Proper Ogg files begin with "OggS".

If this isn't the problem though, then it starts to get hard to explain what to look for - at least concisely - and providing (a part of) a file for someone else to look at makes sense.

[evilnick]

I just searched this forum for "ogg id3" and got this as a result: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,10764.0.html which recommends Mp3tag as a program to remove id3 tags.

[OxonOwl]

Pretty sure it didn't start with ID3

However, I removed all tags and the files play.

This evening I will re-tag and see if the problem recurs

Thanks for all your help

[Lear]

In that case, I suspect the tags contained big album art images (at least a few hundred kilobytes).