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Volume limiter
STU103:
You have missed the point..... Why not simplify it. why make it so complicated. Why not have a simple menu item to limit the volume. This would enhance Rockbox and make it more accessible to the everyday user. OR is it simple to complex to have a simple menu item to control the maximum volume output to prevent possible hearing damage and loss?
saratoga:
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:16:55 PM ---You have missed the point..... Why not simplify it.
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So I guess precut really is the same thing as what you called a volume limiter and we had what you wanted all along?
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:16:55 PM ---Why not have a simple menu item to limit the volume.
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I might not be opposed to this, but how would you simplify it verses what we have now? Just leave the option exactly how it is now but rename it? Or something else?
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:16:55 PM --- This would enhance Rockbox and make it more accessible to the everyday user. OR is it simple to complex to have a simple menu item to control the maximum volume output to prevent possible hearing damage and loss?
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To be clear, this is a pretty obscure feature. The goal wouldn't be to make it accessible to everyday users (since they'd never use it), but to make it more clear that the feature exists.
Edit: It might be helpful to know why you had so much trouble using this feature. Was it because you didn't know what precut was, because the manual didn't explain it well, or something else?
STU103:
Why would you say that people never use the volume limit feature? It is a simple feature that could only enhance rockbox's usability. And make it more user friendly. Once again I will return to spinning cube. A feature that would be very rarely used by anyone. Yet incorporating a safety, seems to inflame anger and ridicule among the developers of the software.
saratoga:
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:33:51 PM ---Why would you say that people never use the volume limit feature?
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I said ordinary users would never use it, since its an obscure feature not widely desired by our users that can easily be done several other ways.
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:33:51 PM --- It is a simple feature that could only enhance rockbox's usability.
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To a tiny fraction of people that both want that feature and aren't already using it through a different means. Adding large amounts of relatively useless options (or options that duplicate another option) is confusing. We try to avoid it when possible.
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:33:51 PM --- Once again I will return to spinning cube. A feature that would be very rarely used by anyone.
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But its not in rockbox. Its a demo plugin. A user never has to run a demo plugin. Many users have to change settings, so the standard is much different there. Basically, anything goes in plugins.
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:33:51 PM --- Yet incorporating a safety, seems to inflame anger and ridicule among the developers of the software.
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Err, we did incorporate that feature. Many years ago. So no, theres no anger and ridicule aside from what you've posted.
Anyway, if you're actually interested in convincing me to support this, your window of opportunity is rapidly closing due to your dithering. I suggest explaining how you think this should be improved in your next post or not bother. I do have other things to do today besides coaching you into explaining yourself.
STU103:
--- Quote from: bluebrother on July 14, 2011, 12:05:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: STU103 on July 14, 2011, 12:00:44 PM ---No it is not the same. Please show me a menu on rockbox that says set volume limit?
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Why do you need a menu item labelled the way you want it if there's a perfectly working way to achieve the same thing by using an option labelled differently? Should we also rename "backdrop" to "background" because other systems use the other term? Rename "plugins" to "apps" because the latter term became popular lately? Or ...
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Why are you personally attacking me? I asked a question and do not expect to be ridiculed.
I will ask you. Why not have a simple menu. I didn't discuss renaming anything. or mentioned anything about the latest popular term. And thank you for in no way did you address my initial Question.... Very constructive on your part to attempt to belittle me and not look at the larger picture. Perhaps There are many users of rockbox who would like this feature?
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