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Would it be too much to ask to supply a URL to the exact link for it?
wasted countless hours over the years here and often find the answers were "hidden in plain sight" because of poor choice of words in the descriptions.
If you've Quotewasted countless hours over the years here and often find the answers were "hidden in plain sight" because of poor choice of words in the descriptions. then maybe you should stick to factory firmware and leave Rockbox to the rest of us.
Right on the first page is a good example: Releases and Current Build. It should be Download and Models. Do you people not even speak English? Current Build refers to a version of a program. Not the version of the hardware it will be installed on.
The Sansa Firmware is just a nightmare. I've tried and tried and cannot get it to even load properly with the Fuze V2 or Clip V2. Would it be too much to ask to supply a URL to the exact link for it?
By the way the Clip is now bricked. Thanks. NOTHING turns that little beast on anymore.
If a simple word adequately describes something - use it. The stupidest thing in the world is to change something for no reason. Especially in this busy society where people don't have time to learn the latest geek lingo describing the same function they used yesterday. Want Rockbox to be used by more people? Now you know what to do. Make it simple.
Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 01:53:01 PMRight on the first page is a good example: Releases and Current Build. It should be Download and Models. Do you people not even speak English? Current Build refers to a version of a program. Not the version of the hardware it will be installed on.I think this is unfair. We're a project devoted to modding firmware. This is a highly technical process that requires a fairly technical user. If you're not familiar with common software terms like "release", "build" or "port", then you should probably not be using our software. Inexperienced users toying with software they do not understand can (and have) ruined perfectly good MP3 players. -----------Actually that is not true in the slightest. By using the Rockbox Utility the whole process is done almost automatically. Nothing technical about it that I remember. -----------While of course we like to make our software as widely available as possible, there is a minimum level of technical ability required to mod a hardware device. If you fall below it, just stick to the retail firmware on your device. Its safer, and in many cases good enough for the "average user" you mentioned.-----------See above - the Rockbox Utility requires zero knowledge or special skill.-----------> By the way the Clip is now bricked. Thanks. NOTHING turns that little beast on anymore. Assuming its a ClipV2, that happens to some of them. It might be nice to supply an average brick rate. You must have an idea. 10%, 30%? Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 01:53:01 PM > If a simple word adequately describes something - use it. The stupidest thing in the world is to change something for no reason. Especially in this busy society where people don't have time to learn the latest geek lingo describing the same function they used yesterday. Want Rockbox to be used by more people? Now you know what to do. Make it simple. Our manual is actually part of the open source project. If you see improvements, please type them up and submit them on the patch tracker. But again, it really just sounds like you're misunderstanding what modding firmware on a commercial device is about. Its not an easy process anyone can do without research or effort (although I suppose its a compliment that our tools make it seem that way!).-----------The Rockbox Utlitiy makes it mindlessly easy when it works.
> If a simple word adequately describes something - use it. The stupidest thing in the world is to change something for no reason. Especially in this busy society where people don't have time to learn the latest geek lingo describing the same function they used yesterday. Want Rockbox to be used by more people? Now you know what to do. Make it simple.
All you have to do is use language that 99% of all other websites use: Download and Models or Player Models.
Wrong. It would need to smarted up - in the English department. I'm not saying to remove any functionality. I'm saying to take care in the vocabulary used so everybody can understand it - not people speaking geek-speak.
In this forum there is no Reply button - only Quote.
What if I want to post a quick reply without the previous post cluttering up the space? BAD design.
As to "Releases" and "Current Build" they DO refer to a version of the software. It's interesting that you're assuming we're using them wrong, and referring to the hardware, rather than taking a few seconds to actually look at what's linked. "Releases" gets you the last release version of Rockbox. The "Current Build" link allows you to download the current SVN head version.---------------Ask 100 people on the street what a SVN head version is and 99 of them will stare at you blankly. How about in English? See what I mean? Renaming stuff for no reason. ---------------If you're going to complain about us using confusing terms, at least complain about places where the terms are actually wrong or confusing. The fact that you got confused because you assumed we were referring to something we aren't is hardly our fault. Especially since what you claim we should be referring to actually is what we're referring to.I live online and read hundreds of websites daily. I'm quite familiar with the correct terms that should be used when downloading programs as I do it almost daily. Check out another example of incoherent English used:http://www.rockbox.org/download/Download Installer and below that is:Download and run the Rockbox Utility.Huh? What's the difference? Do I need both? Which one is used for what? See how unclear this is? Below that is more English nebulousity.If you truly want to, you can still do the install manually old releases archive.(That doesn't even make any sense if you know English.)It should be:If you truly want to, you can still do the install manually. Hyperlinked: Old releases archive.These may seem like trivial things when you're used to a website's navigation requirements but for a new user it just its just an aggravating irritation browsing such a quagmire of poor English choices.
^^^ You should probably hit the preview button before posting. You're messing up your posts.
On this page it would be prudent to have the reply posted right below the post its replying to.
You can see how jumbled this is now. BAD design.
The reason I'm expending so much time on my replies is that the Rockbox system, when working, is utterly a dream to use. I've told many people about it but few use it - probably because of this website's design.
So its worth it to sacrifice a little pride and realize that English WAS an important subject in school and show it some respect.
Quote from: saratoga on July 05, 2011, 04:38:04 PM^^^ You should probably hit the preview button before posting. You're messing up your posts.It wouldn't be the fault of the web page designer of course.
I hit the Preview button and don't see this message.
Do you people not even speak English?
Want Rockbox to be used by more people? Now you know what to do. Make it simple.
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