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Layout of this website could be clearer.
rockbox2u:
On this page it would be prudent to have the reply posted right below the post its replying to. You can see how jumbled this is now. BAD design.
I've been spoiled with the simplicity and logic of Usenet newsgroups I guess. Since they are gradually becoming extinct, forums are taking their place. When they are designed logically, things are fine. This one needs a lot of work.
The reason I'm expending so much time on my replies is that the Rockbox system, when working, is utterly a dream to use. I've told many people about it but few use it - probably because of this website's design. When I show people how streamlined it is and how all your folder structure is retained when copying from Windows Explorer - they are impressed. So its worth it to sacrifice a little pride and realize that English WAS an important subject in school and show it some respect. Your audience will dramatically enlarge and worldwide appreciation will ensue. Not to mention the satisfaction of sticking it to an utterly selfserving corporation like Apple which the general public, in all their ignorance, just fuels blindly because of their laziness in learning something more functional.
Post Merge: July 05, 2011, 04:44:08 PM
--- Quote from: saratoga on July 05, 2011, 04:38:04 PM ---^^^ You should probably hit the preview button before posting. You're messing up your posts.
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It wouldn't be the fault of the web page designer of course.
I hit the Preview button and don't see this message. More BAD design. It mentions Alt+P to preview. Don't they realize that that has a function (brings up Preferences) in the Opera browser? More BAD design.
saratoga:
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 04:41:44 PM ---On this page it would be prudent to have the reply posted right below the post its replying to.
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There are forums that do this, but in practice its pretty terrible. That said, we didn't write the forums software, so you'll need to complain to the people I linked above.
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 04:41:44 PM --- You can see how jumbled this is now. BAD design.
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No the problem is that you're not formatting your posts correctly, which is causing them to be incomprehensible. We use the standard BB text used on all forums, but if you've never used an internet forum before, there is documentation explaining how to use it.
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 04:41:44 PM ---The reason I'm expending so much time on my replies is that the Rockbox system, when working, is utterly a dream to use. I've told many people about it but few use it - probably because of this website's design.
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No lots of people use it, although probably because of our website design, but mostly due to it being useful software.
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 04:41:44 PM ---So its worth it to sacrifice a little pride and realize that English WAS an important subject in school and show it some respect.
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Could you give an example of an improvement thats actually correct? As far as I can tell the actual problem here is that you're not too familiar with open source software, and not the kind of person who takes the time to read directions when hes confused.
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 04:41:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: saratoga on July 05, 2011, 04:38:04 PM ---^^^ You should probably hit the preview button before posting. You're messing up your posts.
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It wouldn't be the fault of the web page designer of course.
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No I think its really your fault, but you're welcome to complain to the forums people. I think they'll likely disagree with you though. BB text markup has been around for over a decade and is quite popular.
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 04:41:44 PM ---I hit the Preview button and don't see this message.
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Works for me. File a bug report with the forums software.
AlexP:
If you are just going to keep repeating the English is bad without giving any actual examples then this is a complete waste of time. Either come back with some actual examples, or stop posting pointless rants with no actual content.
If you want people to actually read your posts, then sort out the formatting. Everybody else seems to manage it.
JdGordon:
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 01:53:01 PM ---Do you people not even speak English?
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You must be american? Actually most of the developers don't speak English as their first language
--- Quote from: rockbox2u on July 05, 2011, 01:53:01 PM ---Want Rockbox to be used by more people? Now you know what to do. Make it simple.
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Count the amount of thank-you threads in this forum compared to abuse threads, *if* more users was our goal (which it isnt) you'll see we are doing fine thank you very much.
evilnick:
For someone who's quite adamant about the usage of English being incorrect here, you are giving the impression of being unable to carry out simple instructions such as pointing to any concrete places that could be improved language-wise.
I trust that you are now convinced that the Rockbox developers (nor 90+% of all projects on the internet) do not code the forum software themselves and use an off-the-shelf item of software.
I believe that you're merely frustrated with your own lack of knowledge and poor comprehension skills, and have decided to lay all the blame at the language choices being poor rather than admit any fault.
From your own post: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27328.msg178381.html#msg178381
"Used the latest Rockbox Utility and it bricked my Sansa Clip v2. Thanks. Nothing get is on. AC wall adapter, holding various buttons whild turning on/plugging in, etc. Dead. The battery is great yesterday so its not that. And the fact that it happened while in the midst of the install.....Rockbox killed it.
I foolishly tried to install Rockbox on my Fuze V2. Windows Explorer (XP 64bit) has now frozen.
Am I the only person experiencing this nightmare?"
Care to cast your eyes over the use of language that you yourself chose to use there and then compare to the use of language on the website to see how hypocritical you are being?
"Nothing get is on"
"AC wall adapter, holding various buttons whild turning on/pluggin in, etc."
And I really liked your use of 'nebulousity' in this very thread!!
We always welcome constructive criticism, but this is far from constructive.
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