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rockbox2u:
You people continually use vocabulary totally unnecessarily foreign to the average user.  Are you trying to appear superior?  What in the world is "porting"?  How about - The new program works or it doesn't.  How about simple, plain English.  Is this too much to ask?  I have wasted countless hours over the years here and often find the answers were "hidden in plain sight" because of poor choice of words in the descriptions.  
Right on the first page is a good example:  Releases and Current Build.  
It should be Download and Models.  
Do you people not even speak English?  Current Build refers to a version of a program.  Not the version of the hardware it will be installed on.  
Why not pick a few of the most common models used with Rockbox and funnel those users into those areas of the site applicable to their needs?  Ipod Nano, Sansa Clip and Fuze would be a good start.  
The Sansa Firmware is just a nightmare.  I've tried and tried and cannot get it to even load properly with the Fuze V2 or Clip V2. Would it be too much to ask to supply a URL to the exact link for it?    By the way the Clip is now bricked.  Thanks.  NOTHING turns that little beast on anymore.  On my Nano it works so perfectly.  Rockbox, once on your player is a dream to work with.  I'd just love to get the Sansa Fuze with its larger color screen and micro SD slot to work with Rockbox.  It seems impossible thanks to people that can't formulate the more simplistic instructions for the public.  
Guess English in high school isn't important to people these days.  
If a simple word adequately describes something - use it.  The stupidest thing in the world is to change something for no reason.  Especially in this busy society where people don't have time to learn the latest geek lingo describing the same function they used yesterday.  
Want Rockbox to be used by more people?  Now you know what to do.  Make it simple.  

BigPapi:
It is called Rockbox Technical Forums, you know.

And I don't see what is so difficult about loading RB onto a Sansa player....I've done it on five different ones. You asked
--- Quote --- Would it be too much to ask to supply a URL to the exact link for it?
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Well, the answer is listed here....due to legal reasons, they cannot directly give us the Sansa firmware here....yet I had no troubles finding it. The Fuze port (yes, I said port :P)  was quite easy to install and worked great.

And as far as your comment on English in high school....quite a few of the Rockbox developers are not from the USA or the UK...yet I understand them perfectly, and I am not a computer guru.

If you've
--- Quote ---wasted countless hours over the years here and often find the answers were "hidden in plain sight" because of poor choice of words in the descriptions. 
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then maybe you should stick to factory firmware and leave Rockbox to the rest of us.

Llorean:
As to "Releases" and "Current Build" they DO refer to a version of the software. It's interesting that you're assuming we're using them wrong, and referring to the hardware, rather than taking a few seconds to actually look at what's linked. "Releases" gets you the last release version of Rockbox. The "Current Build" link allows you to download the current SVN head version.

If you're going to complain about us using confusing terms, at least complain about places where the terms are actually wrong or confusing. The fact that you got confused because you assumed we were referring to something we aren't is hardly our fault. Especially since what you claim we should be referring to actually is what we're referring to.

AlexP:

--- Quote from: BigPapi on July 05, 2011, 02:15:45 PM ---If you've
--- Quote ---wasted countless hours over the years here and often find the answers were "hidden in plain sight" because of poor choice of words in the descriptions.  
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then maybe you should stick to factory firmware and leave Rockbox to the rest of us.

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Or even help, god forbid.  Yes, it isn't perfect. However the specific example you gave (current builds) was wrong, and other than that I see nothing but a rant.

dreamlayers:
I actually do see a point here. The website is designed for people who have some technical knowledge. I'm sure many people don't understand the meaning of "releases" and "current build".

The website is this way because it's actually useful for people who understand it. To simplify things, it would basically have to be dumbed down, removing or hiding functionality.

I suppose a simple and flashy website would get more people to try out Rockbox. However, I think most of those people wouldn't really want Rockbox. They would often probably prefer the original firmware, because it's simpler and flashier.

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