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Offline yakisoba

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Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« on: June 24, 2011, 02:11:33 PM »
Hey guys,

I'm new to the clip+ (just got it yesterday) and rockbox (discovered today) :)

I was just wondering, is there a way to create playlists in my OS (Win7) and then bringing it over into the clip+ with rockbox? (kind of like in itunes into the ipod), or is it all manually/internally within the sansa clip?

It's so much easier to drag/drop in Windows, so hoping there's an easy way.

Thanks!
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 02:52:27 PM »
We use standard m3u playlists created by wmp, itunes, winamp, foobar, mediamonkey,etc.
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Offline yakisoba

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 03:12:10 PM »
Hmm, could you explain the steps to me please? :)

So I dump all my songs onto the clip+, then create m3u playlists with winamp for example, then move that playlist file into the playlist folder on clip+, and then it will auto find the songs and play them as long as the mp3's are in the clip+ ?
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Offline saratoga

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 03:49:50 PM »
M3Us are just text files that list songs, so provided the player can find the songs listed, then it should work.  This is probably in the manual if you're uncertain. 
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Offline mlt

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 06:06:54 PM »
It is not really clear from the manual how to externally create a playlist. The main idea is that rockbox will trim all invalid path prefixes for files in your playlist. Thus as long as you have same filesystem structure on your device, it doesn't matter whether your playlist has absolute or relative paths. But keep in mind that usually you save file in MUSIC subfolder for built-in memory (not necessarily, but Original Firmware expects), and SD card stuff goes in <microSD1>/ . Thus you must change prefix for files and playlist that reside on a memory card. Here is another thread http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13974.0 .

I personally use MusicBee on Windows, it can rename prefix for you. The only problem is that MusicBee require playlist to reside on the same disc while syncing thus you have to place playlists on external card as well. You can tell rockbox where to find playlist catalog as described here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5179 , namely "by creating the file /.rockbox/playlist_catalog_config and adding the line "dir:/my/playlist/path name"".
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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 06:04:31 AM »
Quote from: mlt on June 27, 2011, 06:06:54 PM
You can tell rockbox where to find playlist catalog as described here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5179 , namely "by creating the file /.rockbox/playlist_catalog_config and adding the line "dir:/my/playlist/path name"".

Alternatively you can simply add:

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playlist catalog directory: /path/to/your/desired/playlist/catalogue/location

To your config.cfg



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Offline mlt

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 11:31:03 AM »
Quote from: [St.]
Alternatively you can simply add:
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playlist catalog directory: /path/to/your/desired/playlist/catalogue/location
To your config.cfg
I didn't know that. It is not mentioned in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomConfigFile . I feel like documentation sometimes lags behind the development.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2011, 10:23:01 AM »
That's a wiki page. Documentation on the wiki lags behind when users who are interested in the features don't update it. You're welcome to correct it!
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Offline mlt

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2011, 11:58:28 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on June 29, 2011, 10:23:01 AM
That's a wiki page. Documentation on the wiki lags behind when users who are interested in the features don't update it. You're welcome to correct it!
I beg your pardon. Indeed this option is in documentation http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildap4.html#x19-375000D . I came across FS#5179 while googling and that is why I mentioned about it. Hence the question, is there anywhere an explanation of all config settings in simple english other than source code?
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2011, 12:18:48 AM »
As I said, feel free to contribute to the wiki page to improve it. The manual has what it has, if more is useful, put it together on the wiki.

The manual is the only official documentation, so you can see what exactly is currently available in it.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2011, 01:09:27 PM by Llorean »
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Offline The0ne

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Re: Sansa Clip+ question: Externally creating playlists?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 02:10:30 AM »
easiest way for me is to just copy the music to your player and use winamp to create your playlist. Even simpler is once you've copied all files to your player, highlight all files in your directory, right click to play/enqueue in winamp and then just save playlist. Repeat for each different directory. Either save the playlist directly to your player or copy them over to the playlist director.
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