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Quote from: rykos on February 28, 2006, 01:07:23 PMA level of innaccuracy such as this is absolutely NO problem for me and would not be a problem for me in any Rockbox implementation.So you wouldn't be annoyed at all if you switched to the next track, and Rockbox started playing the last 10 seconds of the current one before playing the next?
A level of innaccuracy such as this is absolutely NO problem for me and would not be a problem for me in any Rockbox implementation.
The concept of "one file, many tracks" does not just apply to cuefiles - the Ogg container format allows for "chained files" (basically, just individual Ogg files concatenated together) and the mp4 container allows for chapter marks.
QuoteThe concept of "one file, many tracks" does not just apply to cuefiles - the Ogg container format allows for "chained files" (basically, just individual Ogg files concatenated together) and the mp4 container allows for chapter marks.But why you are against cue files ?For me they are just important and common, native tag containers for whole CDs.When I rip new CD with Exact Audio Copy, it writes one big wav file and a cuesheet.But, why 2 files! I have one CD in my hand and want have 1 file on disc, with all data.So, I personally use Monkey's Audio, others use FLAC or something like that for compressing audio.Then, with a little help of Foobar2000 player, I embed cue file into my Monkey's Audio APE file.And finally, I erase cue file from disk. Now I have complete backup of my CD, playable immediatelywith Foobar2000. The only thing to play it is loading this one file to foorbar, which automaticallyrecognizes embedded cue tracklist, puts it on current playlist and plays it.And... all above we simply want implemented in Rockbox. Why to complain if it is good or not.This just IS. People use it. It's useful. Simply. Effective. Comfortable.And, what other containers can do for me in this case? Basically - what MORE than this?I listen to music usually as whole CDs, mainly concept albums, so I want to put myAPE CD images on my DAC and play it with track titles read from embedded cue.Nothing more.
So once again we find ourselves let down by the worlds most 'popular' digital music format
Anyway, I have not seen foobar 'framewalking' a file, but would be interested to. Is this a processory-intensive operation for it to perform?
My Winamp pulls it off without any problem - it just uses the cue list as a fast forwarding feature, rather like the study mode. It's instantaneous.For anyone who's interested in using it, or more importantly, having a look at it for Rockbox purposes, the website for the plugin is http://www.guerillasoft.co.uk/mp3cuePlease note the first heading in the FAQ section of that page:It's not accurate!Yes it is (I think). For CBR mp3s, the accuracy is the same as for a wav file, and the same as for a CD. The problem comes with VBR mp3s. Winamp uses a fast, inaccurate method to seek positions within mp3s (otherwise it would take a second or so to seek...). This messes up the accuracy a bit, but it's not the fault of mp3cue (or Winamp, really).A level of innaccuracy such as this is absolutely NO problem for me and would not be a problem for me in any Rockbox implementation.
Along with mp3cue, there is also a plugin for Winamp called Cue Player: http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=143011 . MPlayer, foobar2000 and amaroK also support cuesheets.Cuesheet support was also discussed on another forum recently: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=39645 .
What benefit does .cue offer that cannot be achieved in some other way?
Basically, multi-track files, like CUE files, are a pain in the b*tt for Rockbox. Mostly because Rockbox is designed from the ground up for one track per file. Multi-track files will cause quite a lot of grief:1) A lot less accurate seeking for VBR files, since the TOC is so coarse2) Random track play is difficult to implement3) The tag database will be more complexI'm sure there are more issues than those...
Nobody's yet offered any actual _advantage_ to cue sheets over properly split files.
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