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Offline coolbox

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bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« on: May 20, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »
If I install manually and run ipodpatcher.exe it says successfull! Hmm! Then it says on my ipod 4gen greyscale: Error,Bad checksum. Insert firewirecabel or hold Menu+play to reboot??? I did not use the original cabel/ I used a usb cabel from a newer Ipod Classic! Could it be a cable problem??? See I have no ports on my laptop where I can connect the old cable.  When I try using the Rockbox Utility it won't install the bootloader??? Happy for help on this!!!
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Offline gevaerts

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 01:41:04 PM »
You installed a build for the wrong ipod model.
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Offline coolbox

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 01:47:29 PM »
I downloaded the rockbox-ipod4g.zip....unpacked it to my ipod 4gen. and then I run the ipodpatcher.exe and it said it was successfull....????
So which one shall I use+ an older version or?
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Offline saratoga

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 02:26:34 PM »
Are you sure its a 4g?  You could try downloading it again in case the download was corrupted, but usually this means that the user in question forgot which ipod they own . . .
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Offline coolbox

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 02:56:14 PM »
I am sure it is 4gen grey! Could it be a cable thing?
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2011, 03:19:06 PM »
What Ipod does Rockbox Utility detect when you run autodetection?
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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 04:39:36 PM »
The message to insert firewire is only displayed in the bootloader on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation ipods - so you definitely do not have a 4th gen.

I _think_ that the 3rd gen was the first to have the dock connector, so if your iPod Classic cable works with it, then it's a 3rd gen.

Also, ipodpatcher should have displayed your ipod model before it installed the bootloader - run it again to check.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 04:42:02 PM by linuxstb »
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Offline coolbox

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 04:57:20 PM »
Thanks alot!!!! I was so sure it was a 4th gen as the guy who gave it to me said so...Sorry about that it is 3gen. And now I got Rockboxinstalled! But now my computer can't find it! It doesn't show up and no drive letter??? What to do? Really happy for all help on this!
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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 05:23:59 PM »
Rockbox doesn't support USB on the 3rd generation iPod. Either use a Firewire cable, or reboot into the Apple firmware to use USB.
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Offline coolbox

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 05:49:14 PM »
Thanks! Then I will need to get andaptor or another firewirecabel since my computer only have 4pol firewire ? Will it work then?

Post Merge: May 20, 2011, 05:51:26 PM
I REALLY want to use Rockbox? So if it doesn't work with firewire on my Widows Vista Laptop. How do I uninstall Rockbox?

Post Merge: May 20, 2011, 06:01:31 PM
There is no firewire connector port on top of my 3gen Ipod.........so will it be able to connnect by the bottom connetctor to firewire then?
« Last Edit: May 20, 2011, 06:01:31 PM by coolbox »
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 06:21:32 PM »
Quote from: coolbox on May 20, 2011, 05:49:14 PM
Thanks! Then I will need to get andaptor or another firewirecabel since my computer only have 4pol firewire ? Will it work then?

You already had the Ipod connected to your computer, did you? Use the same cable. If it's USB you need to boot into the Apple firmware first. See the manual on how to do this. And *please* check the documentation first.
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Offline coolbox

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 07:15:06 PM »
I connected with Apple firmware and then my computer did put my ipod on driveletter N:\ then I held down Menu and Play to reboot and the Ipod was gone. NO ipod on drive letter N:\! how to do this? Rockbox is properly installed. What to do? Same if I connect with Rockbox loaded....no ipod found?
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Offline Chronon

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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 07:25:10 PM »
Why did you reboot while your player was mounted to N:\?  You should safely remove it to avoid file system corruption. 

If you reboot your player while it's connected you shouldn't be surprised if the USB session is lost.  As people have said, Rockbox doesn't have USB support for this player.  You need to use Apple's firmware for USB sessions.
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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2011, 07:30:09 PM »
How do I do then to get Rockbox to work with it???? As it is supported! Without using usb and there is no firewireport on it! Or is it possible to use the ipods bottom connector and then to my firewireport on my laptop??
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Re: bootloader won't install on ipod 4gen grey
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2011, 07:39:35 PM »
 Use the original firmware for USB session.  Transfer whatever you want to the player.  Safely remove the iPod.  Then reboot into Rockbox and use the files.
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