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Help? Rockbox works on Clip+, then fails; my attempts to reinstall fail

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Mark Colan:
saratoga wrote: Do you get the firmware update message?

I don't know, sorry, but see below.  As I tried what Raiden175 suggested, I did see it.

Raiden175: I did the following

Noticed that there was no .rockbox folder, which surprised me.
Used the Uninstall Rockbox button to remove all components except presumably the bootloader, which has a separate button.
Used the Remove Bootloader button.  It said it failed, suggested I update the firmware to get rid of the bootloader.
Updated Sansa firmware by dragging bin and dat files to the root then disconnecting.  Waited for firmware upgrade to finish.
Switched USB mode back to MSC (because firmware refresh changes it back to auto)
Installed bootloader using button on Installation tab.
Installed Rockbox using button on Installation tab.
Still no .rockbox folder!  Is this a symptom of the problem?
Disconnected.
Waited for Sansa refreshing media.
Turned off Clip+.
Turned on Clip+.  It still starts Sansa firmware.

I'm still hosed.  Other ideas?  Appreciate the help so far.

Raiden175:
Well I'm not much of a expert on Rockbox. Maybe Mods or Experts can Help you.

But last thing I can suggest is manual installation? You can try that.

And sorry I couldn't be much help!  :'(

And I'm pretty sure the .rockbox folder missing is the cause!

saratoga:

--- Quote from: Mark Colan on May 04, 2011, 10:52:35 PM ---saratoga wrote: Do you get the firmware update message?

I don't know, sorry, but see below. 

--- End quote ---

Then find out ?


--- Quote from: Mark Colan on May 04, 2011, 10:52:35 PM ---Noticed that there was no .rockbox folder, which surprised me.

--- End quote ---

If you can't install the bootloader, it makes little difference if you've installed the main build.  Without a bootloader nothing will be run.  Stop messing with that and figure out why you can't install the bootloader.  Then once you've got that figured out, you can put your player into MSC mode and extract a build. 

torne:
The .rockbox folder disappearing in the first place (causing your initial problem) suggests your filesystem might be corrupted; this may explain a whole host of subsequent problems :)

Mark Colan:
As am experienced PC user, I'm embarrassed to reveal that this was user error, but it does suggest a way to improve RockboxUtility.

When I first used RU a few weeks ago, I autodetected the Clip+.  More recently, I plugged in a USB drive when my Clip+ was not connected, and it assigned the same letter formerly assigned to my Clip+.  Connecting Clip+ assigned a new drive letter, but RU was looking at the old drive letter, which is now a hard disk.  I did not think to autodetect again, so RU installed to the hard disk.  By the way, it installs much faster that way!  ::)

If I can make this mistake, it will bite others too.  RU could be enhanced to automatically check on start-up to verify that the configured drive has expected files for the OF, and give a warning if not found, suggesting that the user try AutoDetect again.

RU and Rockbox are truly useful works, and I am grateful to have them, as well as a community willing to help out in using them.   I appreciate the time and consideration for all who answered.
Post Merge: May 05, 2011, 07:28:15 AM
--- Quote from: saratoga on May 04, 2011, 11:39:20 PM ---Stop messing with that and figure out why you can't install the bootloader.

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What should I be looking for in the file system to verify that bootloader is installed?


--- Quote from: saratoga on May 04, 2011, 11:39:20 PM ---Then once you've got that figured out, you can put your player into MSC mode and extract a build. 

--- End quote ---

Shouldn't I always have the player in MSC mode for anything I do with Rockbox? Do I leave MSC mode to verify that bootloader is installed?

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