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Offline evilnick

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Re: clear playlist button
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2011, 02:12:49 PM »
Simply playing a file from a new directory will clear the dynamic playlist and create another.

Is there a reason why you would want to clear the playlist *without* playing a new file?
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Offline Chronon

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Re: clear playlist button
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 02:48:38 PM »
Please consult the manual for the key map for your player.  Chapter 4 will tell you the functions of various keys (and key combinations).

I have wanted to be able to clear the playlist (or stop/pause after current) in the past.  (For example, you may wish to end the set of music currently playing without abruptly ending the current track or needing to pay close attention to when the track ends.)  A workaround for now is to choose "Play next" on a track of silence. 
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Offline nls

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Re: clear playlist button
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 07:17:59 PM »
"Clear playlist" would have the same function as the recently proposed "Stop after current" so i don't think we need both of those :)
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 10:57:09 PM »
Merged.   :)
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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 01:35:58 PM »
Quote from: nls on March 17, 2011, 07:17:59 PM
"Clear playlist" would have the same function as the recently proposed "Stop after current" so i don't think we need both of those :)

I don't agree with that -- why should someone wanting to stop playback after the currently playing track also want to clear the playlist the same time? I'm using stop after playback with media players every now and then, and I usually want to keep the playlist.

Clearing the playlist would of course also stop playback after the currently playing track, but it's still not the same :)
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2011, 02:42:08 PM »
I think "stop after current" should satisfy those who want to clear playlist.  Is there another reason to clear the playlist other than wanting to stop after the current track?  If one wants to replace the current playlist with different content the "play next" option can be used. 

Once playback is stopped, a user can choose to resume later or create/load a new playlist.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2011, 03:02:07 PM »
Why wouldn't "pause after current" work, though?

You can already clear a playlist by explicitly stopping, by selecting a new file, or by using "play next." All three of these can also be used after a "pause after current" to duplicate the effects of a "stop after current." What's the advantage of having both "pause after current" and "stop after current?"
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Offline nls

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 06:06:24 AM »
Yes stopping does clear the playlist so stop after current and clear playlist are functionally the same thing. Although a cleared playlist can be resumed making this a little non-obvious most of the time.
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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 07:25:17 PM »
Quote from: nls on March 19, 2011, 06:06:24 AM
Yes stopping does clear the playlist so stop after current and clear playlist are functionally the same thing.

I can't confirm that:
Create a dynamic playlist by playing a file in a folder. Let it play for a bit. Press stop. Playback is now stopped, so the dynamic playlist should be cleared. Press Play. The dynamic playlist resumes.

The dynamic playlist is cleared when playback is stopped at the end of the playlist, but inserting a "stop after this track" is something different than "the playlist ended".
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Offline jaylee

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2011, 10:58:01 PM »
Translating "Stop after current" to rockbox, it's almost a playback mode, which means: single track play without repeat, keep the playlist.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 11:35:23 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on March 18, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
Why wouldn't "pause after current" work, though?

You can already clear a playlist by explicitly stopping, by selecting a new file, or by using "play next." All three of these can also be used after a "pause after current" to duplicate the effects of a "stop after current." What's the advantage of having both "pause after current" and "stop after current?"
I agree.  "Stop after current" doesn't offer anything tangible in addition to "pause after current".
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2011, 10:50:14 AM »
I think the most noticeable difference between "stop" and "pause" after current would be if a song ended, then you chose "insert next" on a file.

If it were stopped, "insert next" would create a new single-song playlist and begin playing immediately. If it were paused, the song would be inserted, but playback would not be started, and the old playlist would not be discarded.
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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2011, 05:10:13 AM »
Quote from: bluebrother on March 19, 2011, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: nls on March 19, 2011, 06:06:24 AM
Yes stopping does clear the playlist so stop after current and clear playlist are functionally the same thing.

I can't confirm that:
Create a dynamic playlist by playing a file in a folder. Let it play for a bit. Press stop. Playback is now stopped, so the dynamic playlist should be cleared. Press Play. The dynamic playlist resumes.

As i said:
Quote from: nls on March 19, 2011, 06:06:24 AM
Although a cleared playlist can be resumed making this a little non-obvious most of the time.
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Offline gbl08ma

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2011, 11:03:42 AM »
I think the difference between stop and pause are that pause keeps the playback buffer in memory while stop does clear it (although it allows playback to be resumed from the point it was before, but it'll need to re-buffer the playlist).

I like it this way as I can use plugins which need to use the playback buffer (e.g. large images on the imageviewer) and that ask to stop playback, without Rockbox "forgetting" what it was playing before.

Perhaps a setting called "Clear playlist on stop" is missing? (and yes, I know, I know, there are some developers that think that we have too many settings already...)
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Stop after current
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2011, 11:21:38 AM »
I don't see a need for this setting.  Once playback is stopped you can easily just create/play a new playlist.  It seems to me that the only compelling reason to clear a playlist is to achieve silence after the currently playing track.  If you are just going to add new tracks afterward then you can just use "Play next" to replace the current playlist with those tracks.
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