Does Rockbox work on SSD/CF modded iPods?

[FireKeeper]

As I know, most CF modded iPods work well with RB, but SSD modded iP owners experienced problems (errors at installation).
Does anyone knows, that this problem still exist? (I mean SSD modded iPod versus Rockbox, incompatibility)
Sorry, if this queston appeared erlier in an other topic, and for the bad english.

[scharkalvin]

If you can install the SSD to replace the ipod's HD and then recover it as an iPod (under iTunes you should be able to initialize the iPod with SSD) then it should also work with rockbox.  If you can't initialize the iPod under iTunes, then probably not.  You might need to first format the SSD with a FAT file system, or clean out its' partition table.

[FireKeeper]

Yeah, i know, that it should work, just don't know exactly. Memebers in the head-fi forum get ATA error codes at the installation if they tried with SSD, and didn't experienced any problems, if SSD is switched to CF card, or back to hard drive.
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/455467/ssd-on-an-ipod/45

[torne]

Anything that can be recovered with iTunes and then work with the original firmware *should* work with Rockbox. If you find an exception to this then let us know and we'll try and fix it (in fact if I have time *I* will try and fix it). The only thing we explicitly don't support is disks that the original firmware can't even boot from.

[FireKeeper]

Thank you for this superior support!

[torne]

The problems reported by people in that thread were before the changes I made to the ATA drive in april to support drives with larger physical sectors than the regular 5.5th gen drive, also, so it may be that it's already been fixed

[DMinor]

The problems reported by people in that thread were before the changes I made to the ATA drive in april to support drives with larger physical sectors than the regular 5.5th gen drive, also, so it may be that it's already been fixed

Can you please take a look at the post below at the head-fi regarding the issue with the Rockbox? You help is greatly appreciated. To me no Rockbox is a deal breaker on any mod. Thanks.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/566780/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread/765#post_9033335

[[Saint]]

Can you please take a look at the post below at the head-fi regarding the issue with the Rockbox? You help is greatly appreciated. To me no Rockbox is a deal breaker on any mod. Thanks.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/566780/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread/765#post_9033335

Take a look and....?


[Saint]

[DMinor]

Can you please take a look at the post below at the head-fi regarding the issue with the Rockbox? You help is greatly appreciated. To me no Rockbox is a deal breaker on any mod. Thanks.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/566780/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread/765#post_9033335

Take a look and....?


[Saint]

and please help us to resolve the issues. There are a few head-fi forum members who have so far tried using the mSATA (with a adapter) on iPod 5g/5.5g. All successfully worked on the Apple original firmware but not on Rockbox. Please help and hopefully a update on the build will do the trick. Thanks.

[torne]

The easiest way to find and fix the issue in our ATA code that prevents it from working with these drives would be to loan one to a willing Rockbox developer, probably

If the original firmware works, then Rockbox *should* work as well, and if not this is a bug; but we likely can't fix it without being able to try various changes on the device in question, so, until someone who knows how the Rockbox code works, and how ATA works, has one of these devices in their hands it's unlikely to be resolved.

I updated our ATA code to support drives with large physical sectors some time ago, and this resolved issues with a large class of rotating disks; presumably the SSDs are objecting to some setup we are doing or have other requirements that we don't know about.

[DMinor]

The easiest way to find and fix the issue in our ATA code that prevents it from working with these drives would be to loan one to a willing Rockbox developer, probably

If the original firmware works, then Rockbox *should* work as well, and if not this is a bug; but we likely can't fix it without being able to try various changes on the device in question, so, until someone who knows how the Rockbox code works, and how ATA works, has one of these devices in their hands it's unlikely to be resolved.

I updated our ATA code to support drives with large physical sectors some time ago, and this resolved issues with a large class of rotating disks; presumably the SSDs are objecting to some setup we are doing or have other requirements that we don't know about.

Are you willing to receive a loan mSATA SSD drive (with the adapter) and look into the issues?

Thanks

[torne]

Yes, though it would be easier if someone sent me an entire modded player (that already works in the Apple firmware) so I don't have to take mine apart (my ipodvideo is my main mp3 player)

I live in the UK, but I am on vacation in the US for the next four weeks. So, if someone is willing to send one to me, drop me an email (torne@wolfpuppy.org.uk) - if you're in the US and you're quick, you can probably ship it to somewhere I'm gonna be while I'm over there, otherwise you'd have to post it to the UK.

If that's too far to ship then there are probably other Rockbox developers who may be closer who might be willing to have a look: tell us where you are and we'll see what we can do.

[DMinor]

Yes, though it would be easier if someone sent me an entire modded player (that already works in the Apple firmware) so I don't have to take mine apart (my ipodvideo is my main mp3 player)

I live in the UK, but I am on vacation in the US for the next four weeks. So, if someone is willing to send one to me, drop me an email (torne@wolfpuppy.org.uk) - if you're in the US and you're quick, you can probably ship it to somewhere I'm gonna be while I'm over there, otherwise you'd have to post it to the UK.

If that's too far to ship then there are probably other Rockbox developers who may be closer who might be willing to have a look: tell us where you are and we'll see what we can do.

Thank you for your willingness to help on resolving the issue. It will be greatly appreciated by the community including myself. I personally have not tried the mSATA but I know there are three head-hier's who have tried with the same Rockbox issue. Let's see if any one of them will be sending you the ipod with the mSATA SSD drive. If not, I personally may get one for you to study the issue. Thanks again.

[DMinor]

Hi torne,

It's my understanding you are in the process of receiving an iPod with the mSATA SSD drive from a head-fi'er to examine the issue with Rockbox. Would appreciate if you can update this thread on the issue when resolved.

Thanks for your effort.