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JimZipCode:
I think this is something that has been solved over and over.  There used to be a patch for this, back when I first installed Rockbox to my iAudio X5L, 3+ years ago.

How do I get my Artists to display, alphabetized but ignoring a leading "The" or "A"?  So all my "The" bands are not grouped between Talk Talk and Ultravox; and "A Flock of Seagulls" appears between Erasure and Gary Numan, rather than between Abba and Bach?

Thanks,

jim

AlexP:
If using the filebrowser: name the folder as you wish to sort.

If using the database: I'm not sure if the sort tag is supported yet, if it isn't then as a workaround you could use albumartist.

Something that just ignores A and The is unlikely to be committed as it is hardcoded to English only.  Using a list of words is difficult - e.g. "Die" is both an English word and one form of the German definite article.  Depending on the nationality of the band you might want to sometimes ignore Die and sometimes not.  The sort tag for the database is the way to do this.

JimZipCode:

--- Quote from: AlexP on February 08, 2011, 06:37:31 AM ---Something that just ignores A and The is unlikely to be committed as it is hardcoded to English only.  Using a list of words is difficult - e.g. "Die" is both an English word and one form of the German definite article.
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Yeah, I saw a reference to some of the complications, in some notes on a rejected patch.

But it's frustrating, as I had a patch back when I first was using Rockbox with my X5L, 3+ yrs ago.   English only, of course, but it fit my needs.


--- Quote from: AlexP on February 08, 2011, 06:37:31 AM ---The sort tag for the database is the way to do this.
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Can you give a little more detail on that?

Post Merge: February 08, 2011, 08:35:17 AMI should not have used the word "patch", I should have said that I thought there was some easy way to do this, like a simple edit to tagnavi.custom or something.  I used to have this working...

AlexP:

--- Quote from: JimZipCode on February 08, 2011, 08:23:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: AlexP on February 08, 2011, 06:37:31 AM ---The sort tag for the database is the way to do this.
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Can you give a little more detail on that?

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Much as you have a tag for title, a tag for artist, etc. etc. there exist tags for title sort, artist sort etc., so for e.g. The Beatles you would have artist as "The Beatles" and artist sort as "Beatles, The".  For ID3v2.4 it is TSOP I believe (http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames).

I'm not sure if the Rockbox database supports these tags, I don't use it.

torne:
No, we don't support it in the DB yet.

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