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Offline ofboir

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Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« on: February 05, 2011, 08:58:19 AM »
Hi

I own a Fuze (v2) and every time I put music files on my device, once disconnected, I have to wait for the OF to update its database (which I never use). And since I added a microSD card, the database update became veeeeeeeeery long ...

But I found a little trick to avoid this : when you put files on your device, also copy a firmware on it (the .bin file patched with the bootloader). You don't have to copy all the rockbox install, just this file. Then, when you disconnect the player, it will go through the firmware update, which is much quicker than the database update !  ;D
It will update the database only the next time you boot the OF.

By the way, that brings the question : how is it going with the USB mode in rockbox ? Is it close to going in a release ?

Cheers
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Offline gevaerts

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Re: Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 09:17:09 AM »
Quote from: ofboir on February 05, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
But I found a little trick to avoid this : when you put files on your device, also copy a firmware on it (the .bin file patched with the bootloader). You don't have to copy all the rockbox install, just this file. Then, when you disconnect the player, it will go through the firmware update, which is much quicker than the database update !  ;D

It's also much more risky than the database update. If e.g. for some reason the battery runs out while you're doing this, you will have real problems.

I would really recommend against doing this.
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Re: Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 09:30:05 AM »
While there is the risk of filesystem corruption, it is FAR lesss risky to simply force the OF to power down during the database update (by holding Power for a while until it cuts off - up to 30 seconds). The chances of bricking with this method are slim to none, and in fact hasn't even caused any file corruption for me (so far - your mileage may vary).

'Tis a shame that the old "read-only trick" no longer works with newer Sansas.

Post Merge: February 05, 2011, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: Strife89 on February 05, 2011, 09:30:05 AM
While there is the risk of filesystem corruption, it is FAR lesss risky to simply force the OF to power down during the database update (by holding Power for a while until it cuts off - up to 30 seconds). The chances of bricking with this method are slim to none, and in fact hasn't even caused any noticeable file corruption for me (so far - your mileage may vary).

'Tis a shame that the old "read-only trick" no longer works with newer Sansas.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2011, 09:33:21 AM by Strife89 »
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Offline Progweed

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Re: Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 10:28:40 AM »
It's possible to delete the OF's database. After that you have to fill the internal memory to the brim to prevent the OF from recreating the database files.

I described the procedure here, it's simple:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26763.msg175823.html#msg175823
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Offline BigPapi

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Re: Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 01:29:37 PM »
Quote from: Progweed on February 05, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
It's possible to delete the OF's database. After that you have to fill the internal memory to the brim to prevent the OF from recreating the database files.

I described the procedure here, it's simple:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26763.msg175823.html#msg175823
Great trick there, thanks!
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Offline BI0906BMXK

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Re: Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 01:45:37 PM »
After you've completed your sync via OF, (In Windows) "Safely Remove Hardware" to complete any writing activity between OS and your device, then power down the device by holding the power switch until it powers off (~30 seconds).  No need to fill the device up, wait for a reboot, or reload firmware each time.
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Offline Carson Dyle

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Re: Tired of waiting for the OF database update ?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 11:44:39 PM »
^

That's what I do, although I've never bothered with Windows' "Safely Remove Hardware".  I just wait 15 seconds or so after the file write completes and then power the Fuze down, disconnect it from the USB cable and power back up into Rockbox.
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