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Offline wolftail

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Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« on: January 04, 2011, 05:24:38 AM »
Thought you may want to know that the freemyipod project launched an unstable port of Rockbox for the iPod Classic.  ;D

Instructions for installing it can be found here: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/IPod_Classic_iLoader_Installation

Please note that the port is still under development and it is recommended for experienced users only. You also have to put your iPod into DFU mode which means that you will need to format it if something goes wrong thus loosing all data on it. Also it may not be compatible with all Classics: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Status

As usual, no warranties on anything. You do everything at your own risk.
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 12:09:14 PM »
http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=28953
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 12:35:21 PM »
And also http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2011/01/04/rockbox-seen-on-ipod-classic/
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Offline wolftail

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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 02:48:44 PM »
Why isn't the 160GB 1G Classic supported? (the fat one)  :'( What is the hardware difference between it and the others?
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 02:56:23 PM »
Quote from: wolftail on January 04, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
Why isn't the 160GB 1G Classic supported? (the fat one)  :'( What is the hardware difference between it and the others?

Different hard drive interface
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 03:01:55 PM »
Quote from: gevaerts on January 04, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: wolftail on January 04, 2011, 02:48:44 PM
Why isn't the 160GB 1G Classic supported? (the fat one)  :'( What is the hardware difference between it and the others?

Different hard drive interface

Specifically, the 160GB Classic uses a CE-ATA interface for the hard drive. Until someone figures out how it works, that model is out of the loop.
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Offline wolftail

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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 04:14:28 PM »
And what is the interface used in the other iPod Classics?

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CE-ATA is electrically and physically compatible with MMC specification. CE-ATA uses MMC connector on host devices and matching flex cable or circuit connection on CE-ATA hard disk drives

Can't code be reused from ports that use a MMC card (ex: Archos Ondio). I'm new to this and just trying to help speed the porting process. (my iPod has been waiting for Rockbox for a long time and finding out that mine is the only incompatible classic caused my soul to shatter into a million flying pieces  :'( )
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 05:05:51 PM »
Quote from: wolftail on January 04, 2011, 04:14:28 PM
Can't code be reused from ports that use a MMC card

Assuming they use the same CE-ATA interface, yes.  However, since the archos device is almost a decade old, its unlikely to be the same as shipping in modern devices. 
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2011, 10:40:45 AM »
Isn't CE-ATA supposed to be a standard thing? How can there be more specifications/interfaces? :/
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 12:43:28 PM »
Quote from: wolftail on January 05, 2011, 10:40:45 AM
Isn't CE-ATA supposed to be a standard thing? How can there be more specifications/interfaces? :/

CE-ATA is a standard, but every implementation of it is a unique physical piece of hardware that requires its own software to use.
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 12:46:48 PM »
Also, the fact that CE-ATA is a standard doesn't magically make it the same as another standard (MMC in this case), even though it is electrically compatible
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 05:56:56 AM »
The part that's standard is the connection between the CE-ATA controller and the CE-ATA hard drive. The software interface to the controller is not the same on different devices.
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relationship between rockbox and freemyipod
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 01:02:04 PM »
Quote from: wolftail on January 04, 2011, 05:24:38 AM
Thought you may want to know that the freemyipod project launched an unstable port of Rockbox for the iPod Classic.

Hello,
What's the connection between freemyipod and rockbox? Isn't rockbox created just by rockbox people and no one else? Pls help a confused person. 8 - )
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 03:00:23 PM »
Developers are free to work here and on any other projects that they like.  There's no implied exclusivity.
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Re: Rockbox for iPod Classic 6G available (and unstable)
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2011, 10:05:51 AM »
Quote from: cubic on January 08, 2011, 01:02:04 PM
What's the connection between freemyipod and rockbox? Isn't rockbox created just by rockbox people and no one else? Pls help a confused person. 8 - )

Rockbox is the general community that develops the firmware itself and ports it to various devices.

Freemyipod is a specialized project targeted specifically at making iPods with encrypted firmware (all newer models) able to get custom firmwares (more exactly Rockbox as development for iPodLinux is kind of dead). On these iPods it is a lot harder to port Rockbox and a  team that is specialized only on them will achieve the goal faster.

In a nut shell the scope of Freemyipod is porting Rockbox to encrypted iPods.

EDIT: the 2 projects are interconnected, not separate entities
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