Sansa Fuze+

[pamaury]

For those interested, we are discussing the inclusion of a deadzone parameter for the touchpad. See http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,43672.0.html for more information.

[pamaury]

For your information, commit http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=2ce484c solves a power regression which happened in July and resulted in a 10h loss of battery life. The Fuze+ should now again last 40h+ in playback with recent batteries.

[sportscrazed2]

Dropbox link for new bootloader is dead it appears any alternatives?   Also the player freezes up with sd card installed right now but sd card works fine in my og fuze.    Is this a firmware or hardware problem?

[pamaury]

You should now use Rockbox Utility, this is the preferred way to install the bootloader.
If it freezes it's a software problem but I need more information: retry with the newest version of rockbox and bootloader first. If you still face this issue, post again with detailled version information and possibly a simple procedure to reproduce the bug. Also try to reset all your settings to see if it changes anything.

[sportscrazed2]

You should now use Rockbox Utility, this is the preferred way to install the bootloader.
If it freezes it's a software problem but I need more information: retry with the newest version of rockbox and bootloader first. If you still face this issue, post again with detailled version information and possibly a simple procedure to reproduce the bug. Also try to reset all your settings to see if it changes anything.

That is how I originally installed the bootloader a few weeks back when I bought the player.  I was just thinking of upgrading to the latest one to make sure I had the latest version to see if problem went away.   The problem exists with one sd card but not my main one.   My main one i used so much that the sticker on the back peeled off maybe that could cause the problem?   I am using the latest build posted on the site.  Also I just cleaned off a little bit of sticker gunk on back of card and now I get a data abort immediately after boot now.   

[pamaury]

Is your card properly formatted ? It is possible that a faulty file system crashes Rockbox.

[sportscrazed2]

Is your card properly formatted ? It is possible that a faulty file system crashes Rockbox.

Yep it's fat 32.   I have it in my fuze v2 with rockbox right now works fine.  Also works fine in my clip zip with rockbox.  edit I should note that i had rockbox setup to start at the bookmark screen.   I just switch out the card between players so i wonder if it has anything to do with bmkarks created on other devices?    Anyway I'm doing a fresh install now and will let you know.   Resetting everything to stock first.  Yep 100% fresh install and data abort isn't immediate now but as soon as i select a track .  Number is 000000320 if that helps anything sp:60BBA68 if that means anything to you

[pamaury]

@sportscrazed2: Can you clarify and explain what is the minimum setup required to trigger the bug: if you use another card, does it crash ? if you reformat the card does it crash ? If you play a file from internal storage (with and without card inserted) ?

To all, it seems there are two different versions of the touchpad and I need your help to check this. If you are using the latest build (from today), can you report those two information together:

• in Debug Info > HW Info > target: press select to reach the touchpad debug screen, there is a line "RMI: id=1533 info=01020000". Only report if your line is different (expected difference: you have a digit which is not 2) and include the "info=" value
• in the sensitivity setting, does the touchpad becomes unresponsive at -15 (approx) or a -25 ?

NOTE: to escape the touchpad debug menu, press power. You will probably suffer from a crash, this is a known problem so don't report it (that's why it's in the debug menu !)

[bthomson]

Hey sportscrazed2, did reinstalling or reformatting fix that issue for you? I ask because mine's been randomly freezing up a lot too. It seems to be a problem with file access because the disk icon always appears when it locks up. It's random and not reproducible with any particular set of actions.

I've also gotten messages about failures writing the bookmarks, and occasionally the "recent bookmarks" menu gets emptied out (but they're still accessible in the filesystem). chkdisk said my sd card filesystem is OK but I guess I should try reformatting it next.

[sportscrazed2]

Sorry just got back to playing with it again.   I updated everything to most recent version today and it still crashes when selecting a file on micro sd card but only sometimes.  I have no idea what can be causing it.

[bthomson]

Thanks, sportscrazed. I'll give a try reformatting the SD card using Windows this time, and then recopy the data. I think I used FreeBSD to format it originally, which could potentially be causing an issue.

But its possible this is a problem with the Fuze+ port, because I used the same SD card on a Rockbox Clip Zip for a long time without any issues.

[halonachos117]

Generally, the best ways to format anything to be used on a Sansa devices are to format with the OF from the computer in MTP mode, or from the Settings menu.

Of course, running a filesystem checker might help.

[pamaury]

@bthomsonl:
can you try with this build https://www.dropbox.com/s/ewwvyezg1730e7h/rockbox_fuzep.zip and report here exactly what is written on the crash screen please ?

[silvertree]

With the Fuze+ RB bootloader v2 (and likely earlier)
When one connects a USB to Windows while in the OF, the machine reduces back down to the RB bootloader.  Therefore there is no formatting benefit from formatting with Windows within OF. 

However, if OF has an option to format the card, perhaps try that although since the OF has a filesize limit of around 30 gigs this method becomes useless with larger cards.

[sdf5]

What I would like to see in the Fuze+ port is the ability to operate the player (that is, to go to the next/previous item, increase/decrease volume, start/stop playback) without the use of touchpad, only using the player's buttons. This would allow to put the player in the playback mode, lock the screen and then only use the player's buttons to operate it -- a useful functionality to have if you carry the player in your pocket.

Since the player has only three (3) buttons (Volume Up, Volume Down and On/Off) some creativity would be needed to implement the above. Perhaps it could be done the following way:

   Volume Down pressed for less than 1 sec = go to the previous playback item
   Volume Down pressed for more than 1 sec = decrease volume
   Volume Up pressed less than 1 sec = go to the next playback item
   Volume Up pressed more than 1 sec = increase volume
   On/Off pressed for less than 1 sec while in playback mode = start/stop the playback
   On/Off pressed for more than 1 sec while in playback mode = unlock the screen
   On/Off pressed for less than 1 sec while NOT in playback mode = lock the screen

Something like that. Thanks