Sansa Fuze+

[sdf5]

yes because I used both windows and linux to try to format it. And writing doesn't work also from rockbox or my android phone

If been using dd to zeroing the partition, no effect

When you are on Linux, what does "fdisk -l /dev/xxx" say, where xxx is the device associated with your SD card? If the card is still recognized, that is, fdisk shows you valid info about the card, you may want to try zeroing the whole card  with dd, instead of a single partition, overwriting the partition table and then repartitioning it again manually with fdisk.

Other than that, the suggestion to contact the card manufacturer is a good one I think, they may know something or may suggest other things to try.

HTH

[ildarion]

After a fresh install of rockbox (utility 1.4.0), I was trying the alarm clock again and still doesn't trigger.

Up and Down to adjust the minutes setting, Down and Up to adjust the hours. Select confirms the alarm, It say it will be start in XXtimes. I wait fews secs and i turn OFF sansa with the power button.

I try to set the alarm on radio FM or back play, same.

In the rockbox utility, it say I have the bootloader 2013-11-12T15:00:31

[rna023]

rbinstall$ ./mkamsboot firmware.sb bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa patched.sb
mkamsboot Version 1.6
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[ERR]  Model name "fuz+" unknown. Is this really a rockbox bootloader?
[ERR]  Could not load bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa

[pamaury]

@rna023: a little hello wouldn't kill you, the lack of it might however, please be careful. The Fuze+ uses mkimxboot but you should probably use RbUtil directly.

[bthomson]

today the player has locked up again... I decided to stick with the default settings for a while and did not experience any lockups while in default settings. However, yesterday I started changing the settings back to my preferences and today it has locked up. This could be a coincidence or it could be one of the settings I chose is the problem.

@bthomson: I'm sorry but without more details, I simply cannot find the bug. If you think it might be related to a setting, you should reset them all and change them one by one until you trigger the bug. Otherwise I'm blind, I cannot know what is crashing.

Thank you pamaury, I am sorry I do not have more useful information to provide. I will keep trying to isolate this issue.

I have experienced another lockup today. Same behavior as I described last time. I believe the only settings that were changed from default were:

Settings->General->Bookmarking->Bookmark On Stop->Yes
Settings->General->Bookmarking->Load Last Bookmark->Ask
Settings->General->Bookmarking->Maintain a List of Recent Bookmarks->Unique Only

I have used this same SD card in a Clip Zip for a lot of playback time this week and it has never locked up. So I am pretty convinced now that this a problem specific to either the Fuze+ rockbox port or perhaps even my specific Fuze+ unit (hardware problem is always a possibility).

I have been reading back through this thread for 2013 and did find this bug in flyspray which is related to freezing. So I have copied all of this information into a comment in that issue.

Do you guys think this might be related to the SD card code? I am thinking about copying some audio files to the player's internal memory, removing the sd card, and just sitting it somewhere in play mode for 24 hours to see if it freezes up that way. That is not a perfect test but might give us some clue. Someone also reported in the flyspray that switching from a 32GB down to a 4GB SD card solved the problem for him, but we haven't heard back from him since last year.

[xpmule]

over time these builds have been getting worse and worse for me.. plenty of buggy sketchy behavior
but worst of all is lock ups started happening and have been happening more frequently the newer the update.
right now i can turn it on and navigate to certain database album lists or specific settings options and it locks.. every time
very repeatable yet seemingly at random places / albums etc.
When i highlight one menu option it freezes on me an di have to hold the power button down to shut it off and reboot
BUT
i checked changing from my custom theme i made and uploaded way back that has always worked fine
to the newest cabby v2 theme that comes with the firmware update and to my surprise i was not getting the freezing.
I started flipping back and forth and every time my theme froze the player and the official one did not.
and i just said it had always worked fine but i had noticed changes in the theme code implemented in the build logs i think couple weeks ago roughly.
My theme had nothing special or fancy going on with it either and i also noticed unusual lag a lot and way more sketchy navigation behavior using my theme too.

As it stands now Rockbox is simply unusable. I go out for a ride around town with it playing but have it turned off in my pocket by the time i go home.
Because it just keeps freezing (all over the place) and navigation is getting seriously hellish.

Over time i honestly think this Rockbox beta for the Fuze + has gotten incrementaly worse and worse.
Thank god i save my old builds lol

I'm preparing now to just use my Samsung Galaxy S3 as my main music player now (just need to find a good media player)
I appreciate the effort all the contributors have done and i wish the devs luck and i hope my feedback here was helpful (to others struggling)
But i think i'm done.. having only a beta version to use with no official build and random devs free to randomly break things like existing themes etc
is a crappy situation to be in. It's been a looooooong time since this was in beta stages and it's only gotten worse with getting out of beta no where in sight.
think of the users please.

PS: USB charging with Rockbox still don't work for me either (remember bitching at me about that ? lol)
I have to boot to the orig firmware just to charge it and lately that has has been failing too
This port has gone to hell !

[thegreatyashu]

How do you change the bottom left and right "hold" hotkeys in the WPS? By default on the fuze+, if you hold the bottom left in the WPS, you get the speed/pitch menu. This is REALLY REALLY annoying because of the touch pad. This menu comes up ALL THE TIME. I am always accidentally changing the pitch or the speed. There is no option to change this menu or turn it off. It seems hard coded. It is not controlled by the hotkey selection in the settings, nor is the bottom right "hold" menu either (it brings up the file/song tag info).

How do you change button mapping?

Otherwise, it's working really well. This is the only issue I have had. The most recent build that includes a volume limit is astounding. I'm glad this feature made it in.

[bthomson]

over time these builds have been getting worse and worse for me.. plenty of buggy sketchy behavior
but worst of all is lock ups started happening and have been happening more frequently the newer the update.

xpmule, can you provide any more info? Specifically, which builds you have that lock up and which builds do not? I am also experiencing problems with lock-ups and would be very interested in trying the older code if it's more stable.

I am sure many of the other Fuze+ users would also appreciate your help in tracking down these more stable revisions.

[pamaury]

but worst of all is lock ups started happening and have been happening more frequently the newer the update.
right now i can turn it on and navigate to certain database album lists or specific settings options and it locks.. every time
very repeatable yet seemingly at random places / albums etc.
When i highlight one menu option it freezes on me an di have to hold the power button down to shut it off and reboot

Can you provide more information on this ? Are you using default parameters ? default theme ? Do you have a repeatable procedure to trigger the problem ?

i checked changing from my custom theme i made and uploaded way back that has always worked fine
to the newest cabby v2 theme that comes with the firmware update and to my surprise i was not getting the freezing.
I started flipping back and forth and every time my theme froze the player and the official one did not.
and i just said it had always worked fine but i had noticed changes in the theme code implemented in the build logs i think couple weeks ago roughly.
My theme had nothing special or fancy going on with it either and i also noticed unusual lag a lot and way more sketchy navigation behavior using my theme too.

The theme engine has had many regressions recently which are not specific to the Fuze+ and can trigger strange behaviours. If the bugs only happen with your theme, it would be nice to open a bug report and attach it so that we have more example to try to track down bugs.

But i think i'm done.. having only a beta version to use with no official build and random devs free to randomly break things like existing themes etc
is a crappy situation to be in. It's been a looooooong time since this was in beta stages and it's only gotten worse with getting out of beta no where in sight.
think of the users please.

Think of developers please, I'm doing this on my free time, just like other devs. Also if you don't report bugs, I cannot know about them.

PS: USB charging with Rockbox still don't work for me either (remember bitching at me about that ? lol)

Are you using the latest bootloader ? Because charging is working in Rockbox and in latest Rockbox bootloader and I don't know of anyone for which it fails so I suggest you upgrade the bootloader using Rockbox Utility.

[sdf5]

How do you change the bottom left and right "hold" hotkeys in the WPS? By default on the fuze+, if you hold the bottom left in the WPS, you get the speed/pitch menu. This is REALLY REALLY annoying because of the touch pad. This menu comes up ALL THE TIME. I am always accidentally changing the pitch or the speed. There is no option to change this menu or turn it off. It seems hard coded. It is not controlled by the hotkey selection in the settings, nor is the bottom right "hold" menu either (it brings up the file/song tag info).

I'm having a similar issue, would be nice if it was possible to fix it.

[pamaury]

How do you change the bottom left and right "hold" hotkeys in the WPS? By default on the fuze+, if you hold the bottom left in the WPS, you get the speed/pitch menu. This is REALLY REALLY annoying because of the touch pad. This menu comes up ALL THE TIME. I am always accidentally changing the pitch or the speed. There is no option to change this menu or turn it off. It seems hard coded. It is not controlled by the hotkey selection in the settings, nor is the bottom right "hold" menu either (it brings up the file/song tag info).

I'm having a similar issue, would be nice if it was possible to fix it.

It is hardcoded, however I'm curious about how you manage to trigger it all the time, how it different from other buttons that you don't trigger by accident ?
Anyway, if people are generally in favour of dropping this behaviour and map bottom left or right to hotkey we can surely change this.

[sdf5]

I'm curious about how you manage to trigger it all the time, how it different from other buttons that you don't trigger by accident ? Anyway, if people are generally in favour of dropping this behaviour and map bottom left or right to hotkey we can surely change this.

I don't do anything special to trigger them, whenever I do Next or Previous I often get those two screens instead. To me they are of little use. Perhaps some config option could be added to disable them.

[ildarion]

I Was able to update my bootloader to V2 (OF trigger,...) but now, the device is unknow in windows 7 (sometimes work under XP)

I get Black sansa screen if the player is OFF
If Rockbox ON and plug, the player seem to freeze / sometime this error : http://titanpad.com/3D0XHuPWhn
On OF + plug => Black screen
Device OFF + Volum down + plug = Nothing/black screen

Everytime i need to reset with holding power.

Now I was trying to format the device with the OF and..... I don't think it was a good idea 

I was using a recent build (few days old), and off course I was reset all settings (rockbox and OF) I had also try yo restore settings with my back up. Same issue and after start on OF, my rockbox setting was reset. And I can observe the settings many time reset. Maybe after starting on OF ?

So now on OF in MSC usb mode, the device is still unknow on windows

[halonachos117]

Does the device even show up in the device manaer? Hw about the disk manager (winlogokey + r, type diskgmt.msc and press enter)?

Now I was trying to format the device with the OF and..... I don't think it was a good idea 

So, does that mean you decided not to? Or, does that mean doing so somehow made things worse?

[thegreatyashu]

Anyway, if people are generally in favour of dropping this behaviour and map bottom left or right to hotkey we can surely change this.

Please do this. I'm not doing anything abnormal, but going forward or back it is easy to accidentally trigger them, or worse, since they are on the bottom edges, just holding the device wrong will do it. The bottom right isn't as bad as the bottom left. The pitch menu is something that would be rarely, if ever used. Most people don't want to mess up the pitch when listening.

Also, I cannot seem to copy songs onto my microSD over USB without it locking up in the middle of a copy and then dismounting the drive. I have to take the microSD out and copy stuff to it elsewhere. Computer will say "cyclic data error" or something similar when trying to copy. I have to reboot the fuze+ to get it to read the card again. Is this a known bug? Is it my device? Is it my microSD card (which works fine in my sansa fuze V2)?