Bug?: Sleep Timer does not work correctly when on AC power

[ufo]

Wasn't sure where to report this, but think I may have found a bug.

Have AC power plugged in to charge the device (in this case iRiver H300 Series) and set the sleep timer to go off in a number of minutes (e.g. 30 minutes).

But when it reaches 30 minutes, item stops playing, but player remains on.

If this was running on batteries it would always switch off at this point.

_{Soap edit:  Removed yelling from subject.  If you know it's a bug it goes in the tracker.  If you're asking please don't yell.}

[Chronon]

I believe that your player is incapable of being powered down while being charged.  Are you able to manually power it off while plugged in?  If not, then this seems to be an intrinsic feature of your hardware and not a bug at all.

[torne]

The sleep timer code refuses to power off players which are connected via USB, or players whose chargers are connected unless they are explicitly marked as supporting powering off while charging. It just stops the audio and turns off the backlight instead.

This is not a bug.

[nls]

Yes, the h300 hardware is incapable of turning off with the charger connected

[ufo]

The sleep timer code refuses to power off players which are connected via USB, or players whose chargers are connected unless they are explicitly marked as supporting powering off while charging. It just stops the audio and turns off the backlight instead.

While this makes some sense, if using the original firmware this statement would not be fully correct which I why I still think this could be considered a bug.

If H300 is plugged in (charging) and sleep timer kicks in, say after 30 minutes, iRiver powers down but goes into "charging" mode.

Is it not possible to do this with Rockbox?

Instead with Rockbox it rests at the System Menu.

[saratoga]

The sleep timer code refuses to power off players which are connected via USB, or players whose chargers are connected unless they are explicitly marked as supporting powering off while charging. It just stops the audio and turns off the backlight instead.

While this makes some sense, if using the original firmware this statement would not be fully correct which I why I still think this could be considered a bug.

If H300 is plugged in (charging) and sleep timer kicks in, say after 30 minutes, iRiver powers down but goes into "charging" mode.

Is it not possible to do this with Rockbox?

Instead with Rockbox it rests at the System Menu.

What does charging mode actually do differently in the OF?  From your description is sounds identical.

[nls]

The player is not powered down in the OF's charging mode, it just displays a full screen charging animation. I don't see how that is better than resting in the menu.

[ufo]

The player is not powered down in the OF's charging mode, it just displays a full screen charging animation. I don't see how that is better than resting in the menu.

Because there must be a separate backlight setting for that charging mode animation (I think). There's nowhere in the OF I can see to set it, but its definitely different for me.

[saratoga]

The player is not powered down in the OF's charging mode, it just displays a full screen charging animation. I don't see how that is better than resting in the menu.

Because there must be a separate backlight setting for that charging mode animation (I think). There's nowhere in the OF I can see to set it, but its definitely different for me.

So you're asking for the sleep timer on the H300 to change the backlight brightness setting for you?

[torne]

The sleep timer should already turn the backlight off when it expires.

[ufo]

No no sorry I'm not explaining myself very well.

There must be 2 different charging modes in the Original Firmware.


Mode 1:

If the player is off and the charger is plugged in, the player charges but is in "charge mode only". If you attempt to turn the unit on, it takes a long time to power up and start, I am guessing probably because in this "charge mode" the hard disk was not powered up (at all), only the battery.


Mode 2:

If the player is on and the charger is plugged in, the player must go into some kind of "low power mode" where the hard disk also spins down. An animation is displayed that it is charging, but if you press the play button again, after a second or two the iRiver is on and the hard disk can be heard respinning again momentarily.



This is not the same in the Rockbox firmware, as even when charging and the backlight is off the hard disk can be heard respinning every so often.

So I guess maybe something should be included in Rockbox to allow the hard disk to spin down when it's loaded and charging?


As for when powered off and charger is plugged in with Rockbox installed, that is now an entirely different issue, for which I think I've found another bug...

[torne]

The hard disk will not spin up in Rockbox unless something accesses it, which will never happen if the player is doing nothing by default. There must be other settings involved here...

[ufo]

The hard disk will not spin up in Rockbox unless something accesses it, which will never happen if the player is doing nothing by default. There must be other settings involved here...

In that case have to work out what those are, so to stop the annoying disk access noise when it's not needed.

I wonder what settings what have an effect on this.

[torne]

Virtually nothing in Rockbox does anything at all if the player is just sitting there not being interacted with, so I'm not sure what to suggest.