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redblade8:
Say you worked hours on coding one wps in one WPS code in the old standard way of using the character | instead of the newer way of using ( , & ) . Now lets say you upgrade to the newest rockbox. It uses the newer wps way of using the characters ( , & ) . All of your work now is down the drain because your wps, fms and other themes for different screens do not work simply because it is in a different wps format. Now you have to wait a couple days to get back onto the computer and downgrade back to the older rockbox. What if we were to have built-in integration of both the old wps coding way, and the newer wps coding way in the future? This would cause much less headache. Especially for the people who code straight on rockbox itself ( you code on rockbox and see which wps syntax takes more time than the other and see which one is better  ;) ).

- This is like how if all browsers were using html , and then newer and better browsers come along , but they use only css. Now your site you did in html does not work in these newer browsers if you choose to upgrade to the newest browsers.  Suddenly, if you want these newer, better and faster browsers, you have to re-code everything on your site to css for it to work. Which will cause you many hours of a headache converting it. It only makes sense for browsers to support both html and css. It is almost the same to say that newer versions of rockbox could also support both old & new wps syntaxes. Or that windows 7 should support all older windows 98 16bit programs for people that still use them, or just want to play a nice, retro game.

saratoga:

--- Quote from: redblade8 on October 20, 2010, 01:18:57 PM ---Say you worked hours on coding one wps in one WPS code in the old standard way of using the character | instead of the newer way of using ( , & ) . Now lets say you upgrade to the newest rockbox. It uses the newer wps way of using the characters ( , & ) . All of your work now is down the drain because your wps, fms and other themes for different screens do not work simply because it is in a different wps format.

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Its not down the drain, you just have to update the syntax.


--- Quote from: redblade8 link=topic=26031.msg173306#msg17330 --- This is like how if all browsers were using html , and then newer and better browsers come along , but they use only css. Now your site you did in html does not work in these newer browsers if you choose to upgrade to the newest browsers.  Suddenly, if you want these newer, better and faster browsers, you have to re-code everything on your site to css for it to work. Which will cause you many hours of a headache converting it. It only makes sense for browsers to support both html and css. It is almost the same to say that newer versions of rockbox could also support both old & new wps syntaxes. Or that windows 7 should support all older windows 98 16bit programs for people that still use them, or just want to play a nice, retro game.
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Perhaps I was unclear the last time you asked.  We're not going to do this.  You have limited resources on each player, so when reasonable people avoid breaking WPS compatibility, and when not reasonable, it gets broken. 


SOAP EDIT:  Fixed broken quote tag

redblade8:
'Its not down the drain, you just have to update the syntax.'

Without access to a computer, this would take many hours perhaps days to do on rockbox itself.


--- Quote from: redblade8 link=topic=26031.msg173306#msg17330 --- This is like how if all browsers were using html , and then newer and better browsers come along , but they use only css. Now your site you did in html does not work in these newer browsers if you choose to upgrade to the newest browsers.  Suddenly, if you want these newer, better and faster browsers, you have to re-code everything on your site to css for it to work. Which will cause you many hours of a headache converting it. It only makes sense for browsers to support both html and css. It is almost the same to say that newer versions of rockbox could also support both old & new wps syntaxes. Or that windows 7 should support all older windows 98 16bit programs for people that still use them, or just want to play a nice, retro game.
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'Perhaps I was unclear the last time you asked.  We're not going to do this.  You have limited resources on each player, so when reasonable people avoid breaking WPS compatibility, and when not reasonable, it gets broken.'  


Yes, I did read your 'no' wrong, I read it as no, this is not off-topic, you are welcome to post about this .

Yes,sorry, I am just ranting here about something that would be VERY useful, but never going to happen. Don't really have to listen to me about it though ;) 
It would however, be fairly easier to impliment than most things.

'so when reasonable people avoid breaking WPS compatibility, and when not reasonable, it gets broken.  '
Nami? Sorry, could you be more clear on that please? Thankyou.


SOAP EDIT:  Fixed broken quote tag.

saratoga:

--- Quote from: redblade8 on October 20, 2010, 01:42:20 PM ---Sorry, could you be more clear on that please? Thankyou.


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Not off hand, but the discussions about previous changes are all in the mailing list and IRC logs if you want to dig for them. 

redblade8:
Ah, is that what you were saying? I am still unsure what exactly I would be reading up on if I were to search up on the matter. I was confused on the part of 'avoid breaking WPS compatibility, and when not reasonable, it gets broken. ' and what that meant.
Thankyou For Your Help Though.

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