Rockbox Development > Feature Ideas
More controlls for the quick option menu?
gbl08ma:
--- Quote from: Chronon on September 25, 2010, 12:56:20 AM ---Thank you. This is much clearer now. Do you think there should be a way to also switch screens on targets that lack a scroll wheel?
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Yes, of course we should not leave this feature off of all the targets without a scroll wheel.
--- Quote from: bluebrother on September 25, 2010, 03:00:06 AM ---This would be somewhat problematic for players with small screens -- just think of the Archos Ondio for example, or the Sansa Clip for a more recent one. Some players also don't have enough keys for more input actions (for example the Iriver h100 series). I would rather completely remove the Quick Screen and replace it with a customizable menu that can hold any entry from the menu. That means you'd need to enter the entry before you can change it but IMO that's still acceptable. Another option would be to have a "Quickchange List" which uses double lines that show both setting and value and is navigated via up / down, and changed via left / right (or the appropriate keys depending on your player).
Something like this, selected item marked with # at the beginning of the line:
--- Code: ---# Volume
# -10dB
Shuffle
Off
Show files
All
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bluebrother, your idea is also feasible, but I think that for targets that can handle the quick screen type I suggested, with various screens, it should be used, and keep that simple menu for those targets without a big enough screen or enough keys. From my point of view, one of the goods of the quick screen as it is now, on targets with scroll wheel, is that you don't need to scroll to change the settings, like happens on menus. That allows you to do an operation with your eyes closed, or while looking at other things. For example, on iPods you hold the Menu key and then click one of the directional keys, which is something you can do by feeling the keys.
If you put a menu instead, you cannot feel the current menu selection and thus you don't know where to click. Unless you activate voice which has some inconveniences (at least fro me) if you're not visually impaired: 1. the voices usually are not in other language than English, unless you build them yourself and 2. the voices are not needed always, and they get irritant after some time of not using them.
Now, you ask: but, doesn't my feature suggestion require the scroll wheel to be used? No, for the four items of the first screen. The access the other screens, yes you would need to scroll, but for the first screen, no. So, you could pin the settings you want to define with "your eyes closed" to the first quick screen, and the less used ones to the second, third and so on screens.
But, as Rockbox is all about customization, and since all users don't like the quick screen as it is now (as we can see), a setting could be added that allowed users to choose between two types of quick screen: menu and graphic/directional. However, most likely this would evolve too much work and open space for lots of bugs, but that's with the developers who actually develop more than me :)
gevaerts:
--- Quote from: gbl08ma on September 25, 2010, 04:01:42 PM ---But, as Rockbox is all about customization, and since all users don't like the quick screen as it is now (as we can see), a setting could be added that allowed users to choose between two types of quick screen: menu and graphic/directional. However, most likely this would evolve too much work and open space for lots of bugs, but that's with the developers who actually develop more than me :)
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And that setting could then be added to the quickscreen for people who can't make up their mind.
A lot of developers feel that we have too many settings already. Let's not go overboard here.
gbl08ma:
--- Quote from: gevaerts on September 25, 2010, 04:34:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: gbl08ma on September 25, 2010, 04:01:42 PM ---But, as Rockbox is all about customization, and since all users don't like the quick screen as it is now (as we can see), a setting could be added that allowed users to choose between two types of quick screen: menu and graphic/directional. However, most likely this would evolve too much work and open space for lots of bugs, but that's with the developers who actually develop more than me :)
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And that setting could then be added to the quickscreen for people who can't make up their mind.
A lot of developers feel that we have too many settings already. Let's not go overboard here.
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I also think that setting is not needed, simply use menu-like quick screen for small targets and directional style quick screen for targets with a screen big enough to handle it. I went looking more carefully into the quick screen and saw that the area that usually holds the title for the menu is blank, on the quick screen it could be used to show the "Screen X/X" text. (unless it is only blank in the theme I'm using, my own port of photoSkins for Nano)
I already got my development environment set up and was able to compile the latest build, however I got no idea of where to start in order to implement at least a prototype of the quickscreen I suggested.
Llorean:
What settings do you change so often that you need multiple pages of the quickscreen? Do you often change more than one setting at once? How many values of each of those settings do you regularly use?
gbl08ma:
--- Quote from: Llorean on September 25, 2010, 05:38:25 PM ---What settings do you change so often that you need multiple pages of the quickscreen? Do you often change more than one setting at once? How many values of each of those settings do you regularly use?
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Hmmm, well let's see. I'll divide the settings into the ones I have currently on the quick screen and the others I would also like to have:
The settings I already have on the quick screen:
* Show files (Music, Playlists, Supported, All)
* Shuffle
* Repeat
* Turn off when idle (I change this often depending on what I'm doing with the iPod)The settings apart from these I would like to modify quickly:
* Channel configuration (I think it is named this way in English, it's where you can choose between Stereo/Mono/Karaoke)
* Keyclick (I have the iPod piezo patch applied, and depending on the place/situation sometimes I like to turn it off momentarily)
* And, if we could pin files and plugins to the quick screen:
* text_editor plugin
* calculator plugin
* Some musics, videos, LUA scripts and text files (like one I got with quick notes)
As you can see, for me having multiple quick screens would save a lot of time and key presses (the keys of my iPod are getting unresponsive :().[/list]
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