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Offline torne

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2010, 05:22:34 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on September 29, 2010, 05:42:06 AM
There's an option to beep/tick for each step moved in the menu, though, without requiring voice, isn't there?
As was said, that's kinda annoying, since I don't use any other menus without looking, and I only have two options on the quickscreen that I actually use. I don't see how "making mistakes" is likely; I can manage to hit the buttons for regular playback control without looking, so hitting the quickscreen buttons isn't any harder. fastforward toggles crossfeed, rewind toggles the equaliser (I only use one preset: "crappy headphones attached"). I think menu and play are still set to changing filetype visibility, but I don't use them :)

I see the point of it as being exactly that: being able to change one or two settings in the absolute quickest and simplest possible way... virtually anything else I can imagine wanting to change is already in the WPS context menu, which is no more difficult to use than the system being proposed here. Maybe we should just let people customise that, if it's just going to be a list style menu like everything else?
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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2010, 06:25:40 PM »
Quote from: torne on September 29, 2010, 05:22:34 PM
(...) being able to change one or two settings in the absolute quickest and simplest possible way... (...)

Yes, the idea of my quick screen purpose near the start of the thread is also that, but for those people (or at least for one person: me :) ) who instead of one of two settings want to manage more (5,6, 7, etc.)
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Offline dforionstar

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2010, 10:49:24 PM »
I use the Quick Screen all the time and I am unable to do the following; if it is possible please feel free to instruct me, otherwise please consider this my input to improving this feature.

1) I have music and voice content from various sources, including MP3 and FLAC. I need to adjust the BASS and TREBLE regularly and would like to see the ability to access controls for both of these in the same format the PITCH control works: with the scroll wheel increasing/decreasing the mode in Realtime.

One temporary solution is to assign BASS to both the LEFT and RIGHT buttons as these adjust the value up/down respectively, but this wastes the limited number of buttons and is not real time like the PITCH function. At present any BASS adjustment from the Quick Screen, is applied only after I press the HOME key which limits its usefulness.

2) I would like to be able to directly access more of the SOUND menu items such as Graphic EQ from either the Context or Quick Screens. It does not seem possible at this time.

Finally, I think much of this could be solved if the user could add ANY item to the CONTEXT menu and reorder it even if by editing a CONTEXT.cfg file.

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2010, 11:01:55 PM »
While Playing Screen - Context Menu - Sound Settings

From there you can access (oddly enough) the Sound settings: Volume, Bass, Treble, etc.

Quote from: dforionstar on December 06, 2010, 10:49:24 PM
Finally, I think much of this could be solved if the user could add ANY item to the CONTEXT menu and reorder it even if by editing a CONTEXT.cfg file.

What is missing from any of the context menus? (serious question here)

I really don't see/can't think of anything that would be needed in the WPS context menu...it has all the things I can imagine anyone wanting to mess about with relative to sound settings.

And none of the other context menus seem to be lacking either, to me at least.



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Offline dforionstar

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2010, 11:11:04 PM »
Quote from: [St.] on December 06, 2010, 11:01:55 PM
While Playing Screen - Context Menu - Sound Settings

From there you can access (oddly enough) the Sound settings: Volume, Bass, Treble, etc.


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I already had that figured out. When adjusting sound parameters, real time access and response is of the essence. The key advantage of Quick screens is to get you where you want to go without delay from menu navigating. This is much more important when setting real time visual and audio settings than it is when setting something like back light delay time.  :)
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Offline Llorean

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2010, 11:16:41 PM »
But you specifically said you'd like them either in the quick screen or context menu and he was simply pointing out that they were in the context menu.
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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2010, 11:26:56 PM »
I don't understand the difference between it being on the quickscreen or the context menu personally...without a rework of the quickscreen, it makes way more sense to simply adjust it from the context menu.


I'm also confused by your use of "realtime", it seems to imply that you think that bass/treble settings aren't applied immediately...when in fact they are.

I'm also still quite confused as to what you would add to the context menu, where, and how it would help to fix this.

The context menus are specific to the screen you are on at the time, which makes perfect sense...if there was just one "global" context menu it would be a giant mess, there'd be a million different opinions on how it should be ordered, and it would be damn near impossible to find what you were looking for...

Having context menus that relate to the screen it's called in (the way it is now) is perfectly sane.

I'm genuinely interested in how you think it could be done better.



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Offline Carson Dyle

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2010, 04:29:44 PM »
I have a Fuze v2.  I  find the inclusion of 'Show Files' twice on the quick menu to be something of a waste.  Do people really change the file types that they want shown in file view all that often?  In any case, there's no need for it to be on the menu twice.

A couple of ideas for what might be better would be:

- LCD brightness
- ReplayGain mode


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Offline Llorean

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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2010, 04:59:16 PM »
You do realize you can change what's displayed on that menu, right?
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Re: More controlls for the quick option menu?
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2010, 05:09:34 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on December 19, 2010, 04:59:16 PM
You do realize you can change what's displayed on that menu, right?

I didn't know that.  Found it in the manual.  Thanks.  ;D
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