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Offline Llorean

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #585 on: September 25, 2006, 04:52:32 PM »
Maybe just a "backlight on pause" option that allows the user to set the backlight to stay on while recording is paused?
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #586 on: September 25, 2006, 05:07:52 PM »
maybe the time could be flashing in pause? There is some screen estate in the line of the time (on the right). Maybe something could be put there.
I'm not in favor of the invert screen thing. A new user could think he has done something very wrong if he sees it the first time.
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Offline mborus

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #587 on: September 26, 2006, 03:08:20 AM »
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maybe the time could be flashing in pause?

I prefer the inverted LCD, but this is not a bad idea.
Many digital stopwatched flash in pause mode, so this
is quite intuative.

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I'm not in favor of the invert screen thing. A new user could think he has done something very wrong if he sees it the first time.

True, but as a option that is turned off by default a new user would not see this.
Also, the inverted screen would go away as soon as the recording is restarted or
stopped completely. So even if it confuses a new user, he/she should understand it
soon.
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Offline petur

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #588 on: September 26, 2006, 03:15:52 AM »
Quote from: mborus on September 26, 2006, 03:08:20 AM
Also, the inverted screen would go away as soon as the recording is restarted or
stopped completely. So even if it confuses a new user, he/she should understand it
soon.

err... I'd rather have an indication that makes a difference between recording and not recording, not between pause and stop/rec.
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #589 on: September 26, 2006, 08:28:34 AM »
it should be something that doesn't need a configurable option. More options in the settings menu = less likely to ever get commited.
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Offline pabouk

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #590 on: September 26, 2006, 09:40:15 AM »
I am against inverting the whole screen. It would be hard to read and it is not so easily visible as something flashing.

I vote for one flashing (alternating inverted and normal text) line or part of a line - possibly the time.
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #591 on: September 26, 2006, 11:57:48 AM »
I got an idea (what's new?)

A two line high, right justified icon, across from the "Time" and "Size" lines.

Square (stop) Double Vertical Bar (pause) and Circle (record).

I would also implement a blinking (invert/normal) time line during pause.
as well as a full screen invert during record.

Check the png's! (remember the inverted line in the pause screenshot should 'blink')

Edit: After looking at them I'd put a two pixel space between the screen edge and the end of the blinking (paused) time line, instead of only a single pixel. It just needs a little 'breathing room'.

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Offline Mmmm

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #592 on: September 26, 2006, 04:36:46 PM »
Well...that looks pretty good (apart from the middle screenshot, that is horrible! :D) but the other ideas I reckon should do the trick... I'm looking forward to seeing your patch ;)
« Last Edit: September 26, 2006, 04:38:22 PM by Mmmm »
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #593 on: September 26, 2006, 04:48:36 PM »
Quote from: Mmmm on September 26, 2006, 04:36:46 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing your patch ;)

If everyone is willing to be (possibly infinitely) patient I'll take the challenge.  ;D
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Offline mborus

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #594 on: September 27, 2006, 03:05:54 AM »
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If everyone is willing to be (possibly infinitely) patient I'll take the challenge.  Grin

Look good. I'm happy to wait for this...
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Offline IpaqMan

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #595 on: September 27, 2006, 09:49:08 PM »
I understand that most recording users stay with uncompressed recording, but some of us are using the H1xx for recording classes and 64K mp3s are sufficient.  With that in mind, the disk space warning seems to be based upon uncompressed recording and the recording screen minutes left on disk seems to be based upon uncompressed recording, too.  

IMHO, the disk space warning and the minutes left display should account for the actual recording quality.
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Offline Mmmm

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #596 on: September 28, 2006, 03:37:31 AM »
Quote from: IpaqMan on September 27, 2006, 09:49:08 PM
I understand that most recording users stay with uncompressed recording, but some of us are using the H1xx for recording classes and 64K mp3s are sufficient.  With that in mind, the disk space warning seems to be based upon uncompressed recording and the recording screen minutes left on disk seems to be based upon uncompressed recording, too.  

IMHO, the disk space warning and the minutes left display should account for the actual recording quality.

Good point, I hadn't thought of that!
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My H120 build with Recording Enhancements Pack
Some examples of recordings done on H140 with Rockbox

Offline Llorean

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #597 on: September 28, 2006, 06:47:07 AM »
I was curious: Does encoding happen during prerecord? Or does it not start until recording is active? I mean, I can't think of a time I'd need a 10 minute pre-record unless I just forgot to press record for some reason, but it was simply a thought I had. (Also, better battery life while not recording if encoding is able to be postponed until recording starts.)
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Offline petur

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #598 on: September 28, 2006, 08:30:52 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on September 28, 2006, 06:47:07 AM
I was curious: Does encoding happen during prerecord? Or does it not start until recording is active? I mean, I can't think of a time I'd need a 10 minute pre-record unless I just forgot to press record for some reason, but it was simply a thought I had. (Also, better battery life while not recording if encoding is able to be postponed until recording starts.)
Yes, the way it is currently implemented, the codec is init and runs as soon as pre-recording starts, and any chunk the DMA handler releases is picked up by the encoder.

The pre-recording logic was also moved to act on encoded chunks.

To solve the spdif samplerate issue and to save battery life, it would be better to handle the pre-recording in the WAV buffer, not the encoder buffer.
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Offline larry_llama

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Re: Recording Enhancements Pack
« Reply #599 on: October 18, 2006, 04:23:49 PM »
Has anyone tested: does the battery last longer using wav (more disk access/less processing) or wavpack (less disk access/more processing)? Just curious!

PS thanks again to everyone who has coded (and tested (and made suggestions)) toward making this recording package a reality!
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