Sansa Fuze V2 Bricked?

[Biber25]

okay; it came back; updated the rockbox firmware: no crash so far.

[metoob]

biber, the same thing happened to me! i've waited since thursday or wednesday, and the battery hasnt emptied and when i'm lucky it'll show up as unformatted. if not it says malfunctioned and its not in my computer. theres no click in headphones. what exactly did you do to fix it? oh and i opened mine up also just for fun. it didnt change it's functionality. its really not hard just put a knife in over the sd hole and jiggle it then just pry it open, mine didnt break. just in case you ever need to.

[Falco98]

Mine seems to have pseudo-bricked itself like others in this thread recently after letting it charge all night plugged into my laptop, after copying some new music to it.  My sequence of events:

• Did a safe-remove
• unplugged
• Rockbox booted the rest of the way as normal
• i briefly saw the errror message "cannot find playlist control file" (also normal for me after unplugging from usb, usually has no effect after resuming my previous playlist)
• then the screen went black and i got the several white small lines of "panic text" indicating a crash, which has also happened several times before, and the player turns itself off so quickly that it's unreadable
• this time, for the first time ever, it won't turn back on. i do hear the faint click in the headphones when i plug/unplug earbuds and i listen carefully, so it would appear to be "stuck".  That was thursday morning, now it's sunday afternoon; it still won't respond, but still has the "clicky sound".

I dunno, soon I might just bow to temptation and crack the case open to try to unplug its battery manually.  It's driving me crazy that there's no manual reset switch.  I've tried the "hold the power slider" trick - held it for 5 straight minutes - no luck whatsoever

[metep]

my player has similar problem today.
error1)cannot find playlist control file.reset 30sec. and works fine.
error2)plugged charge cable.cant charge and cant open
error3)30sec. reset>ATA error: -2. tried 30sec reset>ATA error: -2 tried 30sec. reset>cant open.
error4)plugged to PC: removable drive asks: format? clicked cancel.and opened diskmgmt.msc drive size: 4mb and RAW.
error5)tried 95+sec. reset. and PC cant find it. no format? question and not in diskmgmt.msc.(tried 3 times 95+sec reset).now 4mb in diskmgmt.msc

should I wait for 3-4days?

sorry for my English.

Mine seems to have pseudo-bricked itself like others in this thread recently after letting it charge all night plugged into my laptop, after copying some new music to it.  My sequence of events:

• Did a safe-remove
• unplugged
• Rockbox booted the rest of the way as normal
• i briefly saw the errror message "cannot find playlist control file" (also normal for me after unplugging from usb, usually has no effect after resuming my previous playlist)
• then the screen went black and i got the several white small lines of "panic text" indicating a crash, which has also happened several times before, and the player turns itself off so quickly that it's unreadable
• this time, for the first time ever, it won't turn back on. i do hear the faint click in the headphones when i plug/unplug earbuds and i listen carefully, so it would appear to be "stuck".  That was thursday morning, now it's sunday afternoon; it still won't respond, but still has the "clicky sound".

I dunno, soon I might just bow to temptation and crack the case open to try to unplug its battery manually.  It's driving me crazy that there's no manual reset switch.  I've tried the "hold the power slider" trick - held it for 5 straight minutes - no luck whatsoever

[saratoga]

my player has similar problem today.
error1)cannot find playlist control file.reset 30sec. and works fine.
error2)plugged charge cable.cant charge and cant open
error3)30sec. reset>ATA error: -2. tried 30sec reset>ATA error: -2 tried 30sec. reset>cant open.
error4)plugged to PC: removable drive asks: format? clicked cancel.and opened diskmgmt.msc drive size: 4mb and RAW.
error5)tried 95+sec. reset. and PC cant find it. no format? question and not in diskmgmt.msc.(tried 3 times 95+sec reset).now 4mb in diskmgmt.msc

The 4MB disk means that the firmware couldn't be loaded from the flash chip.  Usually this means the chip is dead.

[[Saint]]

<snip>...Usually this means the chip is dead.

It does?

I think it would accept "this /may/ mean that the flash is dead", but "usually means" doesn't sit well with me - having managed to guide many a user through the restoration of these devices myself (I feel I should also mention that in the times I was unsuccessful in doing so, I can't rule out further user error as the reason the device wasn't recovered).

OP - pop into IRC - we might be able to make some magic happen.


[Saint]

[3XTR3M1ST]

Hi there;
just have installed rockbox and I'm surprised how good it finally is
The only problem I have with it is, that it freezes often; I have listened to an Album
and it froze 2 times.. The last was a hard one like mentioned aboth:
The player doesnt show anything and even with plugged in headphones I dont hear a thing..
You have some ideas? I will wait some days and then trying to plug it in the pc.

Some more information:
I was listening to a track; then it suddenly stopped; when I came onto the playing screen of my Fuze v2 it said "paused". I pressed play: then it froze.
I tried to restart it with the 10s off method: Everything turned off but I couldnt restart it.
Connecting it to the PC: My pc recognizes that there is a unformated flash divise connected, but nothing happens on the mp3 player.
Listening through the headphones: No sound.
What shall I do?
My Fuze is very new. But I want to run rockbox...

I just had this exact same problem except that I was listen to the radio when it happened, and it happened on my sansa clip+. Please, if anyone have a solution, tell me!! :'( :'(

[3XTR3M1ST]

Just a little update, I unsoldered the battery 12 hours ago to leave it to discharged, by now i believe even a big ass capacitor would have lost everything it has. I did the "hold the power button as long as you can tick" to no avail. When I plug it in the computer USB, it would show a unformatted 4MB disk that is RAW, and no matter how many times I try, it just wouldn't format it successfully.

I have yet to solder the battery back to see if it works, not sure if I should.

Anyway, for the method documented at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick, is it necessary to use a Linux for it? I dont have linux and is running on Win7. Does that mean I can't do the AMSUnbrick at all?

Any other solutions?

[3XTR3M1ST]

awww no ones helping?

[[Saint]]

Anyway, for the method documented at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick, is it necessary to use a Linux for it?

No. You don't.

As this example only uses the 'dd' tool, you can get away with using a Windows dd implementation and MS-DOS/Windows style

My advice before starting any of this process would be to visit the IRC channel and talk to either myself or someone else in real-time.


***Obligatory dd Warning***

Specifying the wrong destination with dd can make you, and your machine, have a seriously bad day. This tool is not a toy, a simple typo could cause irrecoverable data loss - always check the source and destination paths, then check them again, before committing to anything.
NOTE: Some level of "safety" can be had with the above linked dd binary by using the 'filter' property. Renaming the dd binary to "dd-removable.exe" will enforce a filter that only allows writing to removable storage, which could be used to help guard against writing to a fixed system disk.


[Saint]