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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 07:02:44 AM »
Quote from: soap on April 27, 2010, 06:37:26 AM
I am having a problem understanding what you want.
I am unable to parse your last reply.

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 07:05:54 AM »
Quote from: chrisjj on April 27, 2010, 07:02:44 AM
Quote from: soap on April 27, 2010, 06:37:26 AM
I am having a problem understanding what you want.
I am unable to parse your last reply.

Now edited.

No better for me.

How about rephrasing?

And please directly answer my two questions - it will help me understand where you are coming from.
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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 07:19:01 AM »
>> I want just "to add this effect during rockbox playback of a track." I .e. on command, RB does fade effect to silence.
> No better for me.
> How about rephrasing?

OK...

I want a command (e.g. single keypress) that when issued triggers RB to do a fade to silence. I.e. to take the volume of the audio steadily down to zero.

>> And please directly answer my two questions - it will help me understand where you are coming from.

OK:

> Do you want to queue up one track at a time and have it fade to stop?

No.

> Or do you want to fade every individual track in a multi-track playlist to silence before starting the next track?

No.

Thanks for your patience! :)
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Offline linuxstb

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 07:26:12 AM »
chrisjj,

So you want a "mute" feature? 

i.e. you press a button, the music fades to silence, but continues playing silently?  You then press the same button again to un-mute it?

Dave.
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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 12:35:42 PM »
> you press a button, the music fades to silence

Yes.

> but continues playing silently?

Actually not necessary.

> You then press the same button again to un-mute it?

Actually not necessary. E.g. auto-unmute on track switch or Play would be OK.
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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 12:44:29 PM »
So... What you want then is an on-demand fadeout at the end of a track when you press a button..?

Since demand for such a feature is likely to be very, very low, you'll likely have to figure out how to code something like that yourself, or find a developer who would be interested in working on something like this... (Something that might be rather difficult, but who knows..? One of the developers might actually find something like that interesting...)

In any case, it might be a good idea to look through the docs index and look through some of the wiki articles on how to download the source code, how to set up a build environment, and how to compile the firmware... Of course, this all assumes you have some knowledge of C programming so you could actually write the code to add such a feature... You could probably borrow some of the code from the fadeout on stop/pause, tweaked a little to do what you want.
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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 12:57:01 PM »
> So... What you want then is an on-demand fadeout at the end of a track when you press a button..?

No. What I want is an on-demand fade-out when I press a button.

> Since demand for such a feature is likely to be very, very low, you'll likely have
> to figure out how to code something like that yourself, or find a developer

Well first it seems a good idea to get the answer to this question.

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Offline Llorean

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 12:58:43 PM »
So why exactly doesn't "Fade on stop/pause" work for this?
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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2010, 01:05:32 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on April 27, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
So why exactly doesn't "Fade on stop/pause" work for this?

As I said:

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The standard "Fade out on Stop/pause" might do if it could altered for greater duration e.g. 3s rather than the current ~0.5s.

I asked the question because if the answer is "Yes", I'd expect such a plug-in to offer that flexibility.
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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2010, 01:08:19 PM »
Well, feel free to download the source code and modify the fadeout duration if you feel it needs to be longer. I'm not sure the developers want to make it longer by default, and making it a user-configurable setting...

Actually, would anything be wrong with making that a user-configurable setting if it was done effectively..?
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2010, 01:16:38 PM »
"Might do" is different from "will do" though. If you added a duration option to fade on stop/pause, what else would be missing?
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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2010, 01:40:39 PM »
> "Might do" is different from "will do" though.

Agreed :)

> If you added a duration option to fade on stop/pause, what else would be missing?

Normal (iimediate) "Play" - I just discovered that "Fade on stop/pause" actually does Fade on stop/pause & play, whereas I need Play to be immediate.

« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 04:56:05 PM by chrisjj »
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2010, 01:47:47 PM »
That's not a question.
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Offline chrisjj

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2010, 01:52:11 PM »
I refer to the OP! :)
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Plug-in for audio fade?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2010, 01:57:58 PM »
Then you shouldn't quote a different post.

Please, be explicit about what you're saying/asking. Do not use pronouns like "this" to reference things outside of the post you're writing unless it's a specific response to a quote you're including, or the post above it. Otherwise it makes what you're saying nearly impossible to follow.

At this point in time, what exactly are you asking? You've been told that no plugin exists currently to do what you want, you've been told how you could accomplish similar effect and that you'd otherwise have to edit the source code. But you're now referring to some mystery unanswered question.
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