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X5-30gb -- no audio on Line Out jack
pixelma:
Line-out works for me on my M5 which is very similar to the X5 and especially the audio, processing and line-out hardware is the same (DAC, CPU and subpack). I tested with one of today's builds, revision 25710 to be precise.
Rockbox does not control the line out volume with one exception - a global (headphone) mute will also completely mute line-out, setting the volume one step above the line-out will give its full volume - a bit like on or off. I don't know why this is the case just stating what I see on my player.
If you still want to go back to the original firmware you need to install a Cowon firmware again, i.e. a firmware update by them. This Cowon support page should have all the info you need: How to upgrade iAUDIO X5 Firmware?.
hollowman:
--- Quote from: pixelma on April 25, 2010, 09:13:12 AM ---Line-out works for me on my M5 which is very similar to the X5 and especially the audio, processing and line-out hardware is the same (DAC, CPU and subpack). I tested with one of today's builds, revision 25710 to be precise.
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And it works for me, too, on my other X5 60-gb.
FYI: I did swap the two X5s' HDs, and the orig. muted X5 still presents muted Line Out audio regardless of HD. Not sure what this proves?? After all, RB also flashes firmware, which stays with the unit regardless of HD used.
--- Quote ---Rockbox does not control the line out volume with one exception - a global (headphone) mute will also completely mute line-out, setting the volume one step above the line-out will give its full volume - a bit like on or off. I don't know why this is the case just stating what I see on my player.
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Yeah, I've known about this since my X5 was new. And this is what I was implying earlier. Any way you know how to manually see and control that bit?
--- Quote ---If you still want to go back to the original firmware you need to install a Cowon firmware again, i.e. a firmware update by them. This Cowon support page should have all the info you need: How to upgrade iAUDIO X5 Firmware?.
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Thx. A lot on my plate right now but if/when I have progress, I'll post.
soap:
--- Quote from: hollowman on April 27, 2010, 03:37:29 PM ---FYI: I did swap the two X5s' HDs, and the orig. muted X5 still presents muted Line Out audio regardless of HD. Not sure what this proves?? After all, RB also flashes firmware, which stays with the unit regardless of HD used.
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Bootloader gets flashed.
Hard drive is Rockbox itself.
If you swapped HDs you swapped Rockbox.
hollowman:
I uninstalled RockBox and installed the orig. Cowon firmware. Line Out still "dead".
I went back to RB, in hopes a flag or bit would toggle. Nope!
Again, Line Out is not dead. The normal noises, such as the garbage one normally hears when one is skipping tracks, powering on/off, etc., are clearly audible in both channels. Then, as music signal starts, it's as if the Line Out audio signal is deliberately muted. Again, Phones out is unaffected.
Any ideas ?? -- I'm just about to call it quits.
Editorial remarks: The X5 is antiquated. When orig released, it had no rivals -- and not for a while. But it, for me, has always been buggy and unreliable. I've owned more than one. I put up with it, as many audiophiles have I suspect, just because it sounded good. Now, with inexpensive and/or way-better audiophile PMPs from China (e.g., Nationite flo 2, Head-Direct HiFiMan), Cowon, Apple, iRiver, etc. are clearly outmatched in the audio department. The Nationite units are cheap, too. Or you can save up for a HiFiMan.
soap:
--- Quote from: hollowman on April 28, 2010, 04:20:57 AM ---I uninstalled RockBox and installed the orig. Cowon firmware. Line Out still "dead".
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That is unfortunate. The evidence points pretty conclusively to hardware failure.
--- Quote from: hollowman on April 28, 2010, 04:20:57 AM ---Again, Line Out is not dead. The normal noises, such as the garbage one normally hears when one is skipping tracks, powering on/off, etc., are clearly audible in both channels. Then, as music signal starts, it's as if the Line Out audio signal is deliberately muted. Again, Phones out is unaffected.
Any ideas ?? -- I'm just about to call it quits.
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Deliberate muting as you describe is an active behavior that Rockbox does not perform, nor can perform when the original firmware is loaded. And vise versa. Consistency on this part is clearly a hardware issue.
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