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alternative to sublines, useful?

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JdGordon:

--- Quote from: JdGordon on April 19, 2010, 10:42:46 AM ---I meant in addition, not a replacement.

--- End quote ---

--- Quote from: Llorean on April 19, 2010, 01:48:08 PM ---It seems odd to argue for adding *mandatory* bloat so as to cut back on *optional* bloat.

--- End quote ---

read, comprehend, reply (or don't)

pixelma:
If you read this together with [St.]'s and Llorean's previous post, it makes perfect sense to me - "mandatory" bloat would be something everyone has to suffer because of an unnecessary tag just to be able to "internally clean up" a few themes where their creators chose long sublines.

I still don't understand how that should help with readability much and no-one has come up with an example. The most unreadable lines are those used for animations, e.g. in iCatcher and JdGordon said in IRC that the suggested way would not improve this and iCatcher would not be a good example, so what is? Where do you gain readability by changing:

--- Code: ---%t4*very long line with a few conditionals*;%t4*very long line with a few conditionals*;%t4*very long line with a few conditionals*;%t4*very long line with a few conditionals*
--- End code ---
to

--- Code: ---%?ta4<*very long line with a few conditionals*|*very long line with a few conditionals*|*very long line with a few conditionals*|*very long line with a few conditionals*>

--- End code ---

After seeing this here I'd even argue that the usual conditional syntax can make it harder to read if you have conditionals in the parts because you have to think twice if | belongs to a conditional inside or to the surrounding %ta. And as been said you lose the possibility to assign different timeouts, - for the possibility to throw out %t4 or maybe %t0.5 (which it seems is not what makes these lines complicated). Finally, the bitmaps not cleared when it's not their "turn" only affects bitmaps that are not on the same line (in the end on the WPS) or at different spots. Since I never heard complaints and people successfully using sublines for animations all the time, this seems to be a non-issue to me.

So, all in all, I'm not convinced about this tag's usefulness yet, which was the initial question. Feel free to find good examples and I might change my opinion.

JdGordon:
the bloat argument is just outright STUPID. it adds a tiny amount to the bin size.

If anyone who actually does do themes thinks this would be useful then PM me. I'm closing this thread

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