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llhell:
Hi,
First I have to say I'm sorry for the long post - but this is a major issue for me with RB, and I really hope one of the developers will take the time to read this. I'm sure it's really an easy fix...

Is it somehow possible to not have the OF load when usb is connected to fuze?
I wish RB would reboot into OF only if the SELECT button IS pressed, or at least make that a configurable option in RB...

Since the whole point of installing RB is that I want to use RB, I think it makes much more sense to have that the default option when connecting to USB, rather than the other way around.

The current setting make it extremely annoying when the usb connector plays a little / turning off/on car engine, which cause the usb connection to restart, thus rebooting into OF. then to go back into RB you must disconnect the cable, turn off OF, turn on RB, hold SELECT, and reconnect the cable. yes, it may sound minor, but it's a real annoyance.

Same goes for the bootloader when the fuze is turned off and connecting to USB - personally, I would rather have RB load by default, unless pressing a spcified key, unlike the way it is right now.

Thanks!

Llorean:
Many people plug in USB to, well, use USB. So this is just personal preference.

What you're asking for would annoy the many people who usually connect the cable to sync and transfer files and run the player off the battery during the day, or don't have a problem with holding a button to prevent connection.

Not to mention new users have no way of knowing you need to hold down a special button to get a connection, especially considering this isn't standard behaviour on the vast majority of pre-existing devices. This could easily lead to bug reports of people saying "I installed Rockbox, and now I can access my device with USB!" and so on.

Once Rockbox has a well working USB mode, reboots won't be necessary and getting back to Rockbox and music will be much quicker, but other than that, "a cable means USB by default" is how every Rockbox player works. It's been this way for years. It's unlikely the Fuze will be a special exception.

You can always alter the behaviour on your own. As something you consider a "really easy fix" compiling a slightly modified build should be more or less trivial for personal use.

AlexP:
This has come up before for other players that don't have a Rockbox USB mode (and indeed those that do), but as Llorean says - when you plug in USB when can assume it is for one of two things - to charge or to use USB.  Whichever you chose as the default is not going to please some people.  The consensus is that the default should be to use USB, not to charge.  There isn't anything to fix, it is just personal preference.

For what it is worth, I agree with the current default.

Llorean:
To be fair, there's been quite a bit of discussion about the idea of having an option somewhere that lets the user switch the default behaviour. But until such an option happens, going into USB mode is going to cause considerably less "I think something is broken!" style posts than seeming to do nothing when a USB cable is inserted.

AlexP:
Yes indeed, but until such an option is there I agree that the current default is the more sensible :)

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