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Llorean:
Given that a lot of your posts look like http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23827 the reason you get short responses isn't so much related to the "atmosphere" as it is your posting style.

In the first one, you were given a completely adequate answer in the very first response, but due to your inability to read the thread he linked well you continued to ask further questions that were already answered. In that case it really was a "they linked you to the right place, where the information certainly was, but you either did not read it or misread it and asked further questions."

You really can't blame people for not telling you enough when, if they do, you're unwilling to read it all in the first place.

If you showed some signs of reading comprehension people would likely be less short with you, but when people give you answers that are wholly adequate and you go and come back with new questions that were answered in the very same information you were just linked to, it inspires people to not want to help you because you very clearly aren't interested in reading things on your own.

To claim that you have gone and read the manual, etc, is all very well and good, but when interactions with you explicitly show that you aren't trying very hard it becomes very hard to believe such things.

The best way to get positive responses is to say "I looked in the manual for information about X but all it says is Y, and I was wondering if Z." This makes it clear you've seen some of what's there already.


You feel like you're treated like an idiot because people are giving you answers that they personally would feel are adequate answers if given to themselves. If what is adequate for Bob makes you feel like an idiot, is that Bob's problem for it being adequate, or yours for interpreting it otherwise?

saratoga:

--- Quote from: evanthepanther on March 04, 2010, 01:13:48 AM ---honestly the worst thing I've found about rockbox is the lack of help (although I'm sure its the same repetitive "dumb" questions over and over that gets mods/senior forum members aggravated) that people are willing to give. I have asked some of these questions, being completely new to rockbox, and instead of being told an answer, i get pointed to where to find an answer (often involving the person looking up the answer themselves, and then giving me a link to it, basically saying "READ"). I've felt belittled by some people, and treated like I havent done enough reading to warrant a question being put in the forums, when in fact, I've read, and I've searched for the question, and had turned up nothing.

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Is this about your vocoder thread because you never answered me about that.

torne:
No, it's about the shutdown issue that Llorean just linked to :)

bluebrother:

--- Quote from: evanthepanther on March 04, 2010, 12:21:36 PM ---the list you made is negated by the fact that these people are on this site, attempting to help people in their own free time, and doing it the wrong way. If everyone was so busy with their normal lives, then they dont need to waste the time with hounding a person for asking a question.

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That's a perfect reason to stop replying to your posts immediately. At least I'll do so starting now.

(Besides, by which reason can you tell that people trying to help are doing it "the wrong way"? That's really arrogant and ignorant with regard to the people who actually spend their time and tried to help.)

Edit: ok, scraped my last sentence. The rest still stands.

Llorean:
To be fair, he did try to help in a few places. It doesn't help that his helpful posts look like this though:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23976.msg162727#msg162727

His post doesn't really provide much in the way of useful information. It also suffers from the somewhat common vague use of pronouns ("work it backward" without any obvious clue what "it" is, for example) people get into the habit of when speaking (because you can nod or gesture in the direction of something, which is something that doesn't carry over into text).

But it is an attempt at trying to be useful. You can't really say he didn't try just that his attempts weren't very thorough/clear.

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