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Offline Styphelus

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Cover art issue!
« on: February 10, 2010, 03:14:59 PM »
Can someone tell me if rockbox has fixed the issues with the album cover art? In previous versions you had to create a cover.bmp file and stick it in the album folder.

The problem with that is that not everyone has full albums on their mp3 player. I for one do not. I have all my music files in one folder. I have spent months converting hundresds of cds into flac and adding high res album covers to each song. Than I took about 3000 of my favourites ones and put them all together in folders organized by decade. As you can see, this album.bmp business doesn't work. It's only good for basic music collections and not huge libraries of assorted music.

I don't know why rockbox wasn't able to just read the album cover straight from the music file. Even the crapiest music player can do that these days.

If anyone could tell me if this issue has been fixed, I would appreciate it. I gave up on rockbox a long time ago just because of this issue. I was hoping to be able to use it again.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 03:30:12 PM »
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt
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Offline Styphelus

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 04:30:58 PM »
Thanks. Guess the answer is NO!

No Embedded Album Art Support.
" it's presence has been known to cause freezes and other problems so it's advised that it be removed from your files."

LOL! Seriously? Thought this issue would have been solved by now. Guess I won't be using rockbox after all. This was the reason I stopped using it in the first place.

Too bad. Such a nice piece of software with such a big flaw.
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Offline Yotto

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 04:52:57 PM »
You are not restricted to "cover.bmp" in the album folder.
You can use "cover.jpg" as well.
You can use "albumname.bmp" (or .jpg) as well, based on the id3 tag of the album.
You can use "filename.bmp" (or .jpg) as well for single-file art.

The idea of forcing me to load album art into each and every music file on my system seems weird to me. I much prefer it the way it is.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 05:04:25 PM »
As the AlbumArt page shows, there are several places you can choose to store album art.  Option #5 should be agnostic to where you actually store your music files.

I think your priorities are a bit backward if you choose your music player based on support for album art embedded in metadata tags rather than codec support, ability to edit and create playlists, and other abilities related to actual playback of your music.
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Offline Serenity

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 06:50:14 PM »
I loved Rockbox well before it supported album art.  I love having album art now, but it's like icing on the cake.  I'm much more concerned with the ridiculous number of cool things Rockbox makes an otherwise mundane piece of hardware capable of.  Dealing with embedded cover art on my iPod Touch was fiddly and frustrating compared to the ease of just dropping the image in the folder with the music...which is where I kept it anyway.
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Offline Styphelus

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 10:51:20 PM »
Each music file has an id3 tag. I like mine to be complete with as much info as possible, and that includes the album cover and lyrics. Seems perfectly normal to me. That way I can take that one music  file and play it on any computer, or any mp3 player or any device and it will always carry it's id3 tag with it. There's no need for any additional files. Every piece of information pertaining to that particular song will be right there in front of you no matter where you choose to play it. That's the way it's supposed to be.

Having an additional 3000 different image files to show album cover just seems redundant and a big step backwards. Certainly not an option I would consider.

The most basic players today are capable of displaying info on id3 tags. We are in 2010 after all. It's not like these tags are anything new. I find it extremelly weird that rockbox can't read them properlly. Bad code is my guess.

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Offline Llorean

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 10:59:57 PM »
No code is the right answer. I certainly don't see you volunteering to write the code. It's open source and depends on volunteers? Care to step up, or are you just going to whine but not actually do anything?

Fact of the matter is, storing them separately like this uses less disk space, offers more flexibility, and over all is better for many users.

The main problem is that of the people who want this feature, they're all too lazy to do anything but complain about it not being there and not do any actual work to resolve the issue.
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Offline kage

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 10:13:43 AM »
well say that I don't have that many albums, and I want to include the 'album.jpeg' tag in there somewhere...
where exactly do I put it?
and how do I access the files?
I have all my files on my ipod from itunes, and they all show up in the database...
if I go into my files on the computer, and put an 'album.jpeg' tag in the a;lbum folder in the itunes library, should that sync those files to my ipod?

sorry, I just downloaded rockbox yesterday, and this is the only negative I can see so far!
I love everything else!
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Offline TexasRockbox

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 02:07:54 AM »
I like the separate file in the folder.  Don't want anything more than I have to have in the file.  Don't want to rewrite every music file in a folder every time I find better artwork -- less chance of corruption.
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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 02:25:52 AM »
Quote from: kage on February 14, 2010, 10:13:43 AM
well say that I don't have that many albums, and I want to include the 'album.jpeg' tag in there somewhere...
where exactly do I put it?
and how do I access the files?
I have all my files on my ipod from itunes, and they all show up in the database...
if I go into my files on the computer, and put an 'album.jpeg' tag in the a;lbum folder in the itunes library, should that sync those files to my ipod?

sorry, I just downloaded rockbox yesterday, and this is the only negative I can see so far!
I love everything else!
Rockbox doesn't support embedded album art, so I'm not sure what you mean by "'album.jpeg' tag".

The AlbumArt page in the wiki lists possible naming schemes/locations.  You probably want to use option #5 if your music is in an obfuscated file tree, such as what iTunes likes to use.
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Offline bobbydriver

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 06:23:39 AM »
If you store the jpg in a directory with mixed mp3s as <albumname>.jpg does Rockbox pick up the correct jpg per file as album art? I suspect that it should do.

There are freeware tools out there that will extract the embedded jpgs from mp3's in this format I think
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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 07:03:16 PM »
It does pick up the correct Albumname.jpg, with the caveat that if your album has a character that you can't put in a FAT filename (say, a colon) then you're out of luck. The firmware will load the correct jpg for every song in that directory, provided the file exists and is named exactly what is in the id3 tag.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 05:54:58 PM »
The wiki says this:
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The following characters will be replaced with an underscore (_) when looking for albumtitle.bmp or artist-albumtitle.bmp: \ / : < > ? * |. Double quotes will be replaced by singlequotes.

I don't see any bug reports about this on the tracker, so I would expect that this works (i.e. making the above substitutions in the name of the album-art file).
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Re: Cover art issue!
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 09:58:48 PM »
Quote from: Chronon on February 15, 2010, 02:25:52 AM
Rockbox doesn't support embedded album art, so I'm not sure what you mean by "'album.jpeg' tag".

The AlbumArt page in the wiki lists possible naming schemes/locations.  You probably want to use option #5 if your music is in an obfuscated file tree, such as what iTunes likes to use.
1: that is the MOST AWESOME adjective I have EVER seen...

2: I didnt mean "tag" i meant "file" lol

2.5: I will go check that out... but the Itunes on my computer organises my music as follows:

>music
        >artist
                >album
                        >song
        >artist
                >album
                        >song... and so on...it is actually VERY neat and clean  :)
I have NO idea how it does that, because when I had my old computer, it was a giant cluster*** of music files with weird names...I guess my library likes mac better lol
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