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Missing peripheral's support in RB?
Parasite1111:
Hi folks.
I've discovered that using iPod Video 80Gb + RB 3.4, it is difficult to use ipod's attacheable peripherals:
1. Wired Apple's radio remote: http://www.mobilewhack.com/images/apple_ipod_radio_remote_1.jpg
It is just not working - for all buttons. All the button's presses being completely ignored by RB.
Also, no any Radio application has been found on RB (while on Apple's FW, it is built-in and works like a charm).
2. Motorola Bluetooth adapter for iPod: http://www.msgdigital.com/images/products/46006_B.jpg
It is working in general (transmit music to BT handfree headphones), but RB completely ignores all navigation commands from the blluetooth remote control except commands PREV/NEXT TRACK (these two are working). No PLAY/PAUSE, no FF/FW, no ON/OFF iPOD, no MUTE, and volume change on Ipod does nothing on the remote headphones (I must use headphones built-in volume buttons instead)...
On Apple FW, all of them are working except FF/FW (Apple's confirmed limitation in their BTControl profile).
It would be nice to see RB supporting all of these in the next releases. :)
Thanks,
A.
Chronon:
I don't think this is considered a top priority because Rockbox generally aims to be a replacement firmware rather than to emulate the functionality of the original firmwares. However, some people have done some work to add the existing functionality for this.
Patches are always welcome. ;)
Parasite1111:
--- Quote from: Chronon on November 18, 2009, 03:24:10 AM ---I don't think this is considered a top priority because Rockbox generally aims to be a replacement firmware rather than to emulate the functionality of the original firmwares.
--- End quote ---
Sure it is not on a first priority.
But I think that have your attacheable H/W working with RB is much better than have not... as far as all of those H/W use standart iPod's in/out port only, and thus must be follow kinda of "comminication standarts" through it. Teach RB to speak this on/out "language" just once - means make RB supporting ALL of those H/Ws at once, in general. At least on ipod's case (where there are many many devices might be attached to this port - but ALL of them able to work immediately, without patching/resetting/reloading the original f/w nor installing any external "hw drivers").
Correct me if I am wrong. :)
--- Quote from: Chronon on November 18, 2009, 03:24:10 AM ---Patches are always welcome. ;)
--- End quote ---
Could you point me to The One Patch which I need (if any)? ;)
Thanks,
A.
torne:
--- Quote from: Parasite1111 on November 18, 2009, 03:45:18 AM ---Correct me if I am wrong. :)
--- End quote ---
Unfortunately you are indeed wrong: there is not one dock communication protocol but several, and we *do* support some of them (at least partially). The specifications for the dock protocol are only available by paying Apple a lot of money and signing a lot of agreements that undoubtedly includes non-disclosure, so we can only do this by reverse engineering, which is difficult.
--- Quote ---Could you point me to The One Patch which I need (if any)? ;)
--- End quote ---
He means *you* are welcome to write a patch :)
FS#10623 and various others may help some accessories to work, though.
Parasite1111:
--- Quote from: torne on November 18, 2009, 05:27:21 AM ---we *do* support some of them (at least partially).
--- End quote ---
Yes yes. I just wrote the hw which is *not* yet supported in my case. Maybe that will help someone while developing next versions of RB. At least I will be very glad to see that supported...one day, in the future.
As I said, it is not on a 1st priority at all.
--- Quote from: torne on November 18, 2009, 05:27:21 AM ---only available by paying Apple a lot of money and signing a lot of agreements that undoubtedly includes non-disclosure, so we can only do this by reverse engineering, which is difficult.
--- End quote ---
Don't you afraid to sound the words "reverse engineering Apple's things"? In case their officials reading this forum... ;D
--- Quote from: torne on November 18, 2009, 05:27:21 AM ---He means *you* are welcome to write a patch
--- End quote ---
Unfortunately, I am not a programmer. At least not a *modern* programmer - the last programmer's things I make were in time of no Windows (yet). ::)
That was a good time, indeed...when computers were huge, and software - so small... ASM (for non-PC), Fortran, Lisp/Cobol... :)
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