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xmixahlx:
So the hard drive in my h320 is dying, not to mention my battery life is constantly shrinking - so i'm putting some upgrades in order...

* battery
* hd (cf? ssd?)

where are all the 50 pin 1.8" SSD drives? where'd they go? anyone have a source for them? can anyone confirm these are working? (the CF wiki page mentions SSD, but no info)

i am only find photofast g-monster drives at ridiculous prices, a bit cheaper here, tho:

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fshopping.pchome.com.tw%2F%3Fmod%3Ditem%26func%3Dexhibit%26IT_NO%3DDGAG1N-A39724243%26SR_NO%3DDGAG1N%26ROWNO%3D2&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=

http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DGAG1N-A39723891&c=A05

-michael

froggyman:
AFAIK, not all SSD work with all players. They also tend to be more expensive than the CF card, and adapter combined. Because of that, most people tend to use a CF card.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong though.

xmixahlx:
no i completely agree - CF+adapter should be cheaper.

i was interested in a 32GB 1.8" SSD if possible.  So far i've found a few samsung, photofast and kingspec units that are not adapted/converted which would be much faster than CF (or cheaper than the CF models at a similar speed) and are just more desirable to me if i can swing it. i don't mind used if necessary, either.

here are some edited quotes from kingspec support:

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hi, our 1.8" CF SSD can match your IRIVER H320.It can also work with H340.
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our 1.8" CF SSD is IDE(50pin ATA), but not a conversion from CF to IDE.
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it is IDE 50pin Female.
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The 1.8" CF SSD specs are as below:

Module No KSD-CF18.1-xxxMJ
Factor 1.8"
Capacity 32GB,64GB,128GB
Interface CF(IDE 50pin)
Average Access time 0.2ms
Sustained Read 65MB/s
Sustained Write 47MB/s
input Voltage 3.3V+/_5%
Idle 0.5W
Active 1.0W
Length(mm) 74.6mm
Width(mm) 54mm
Height(mm) 5.0mm
Weight(g) 23g
Operating Temperature 0～70℃

The data sheet is under review now, and will be uploaded in several days.
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-michael

edited: updated kingspec correspondence

peteswensson:
Check the specs on sector size before you spend a lot of money buying an SSD.

About a year ago I bought a Samsung 32GB SSD for my iriver H340.  It is the right physical size (identical in dimensions to the original 40GB Toshiba hard drive), and it uses the same 50-pin IDE connection.  I could get my computer to recognize it and load files on it when connected directly to the motherboard, but once installed in the iriver, neither RockBox nor the player's firmware would recognize it.  It was a waste of $350.  Probably would be cheaper now, but still a waste.

I suspect that the Samsung SSD does not use the 512-byte sector size that iriver needs on its drive.  There may be a way to reprogram the RockBox firmware to communicate with an SSD with a different sector size, and someone else in this forum might be able to help you do that.

My solution was to use 32GB compact flash cards.  There is a lot of information on this site, and I have had success with both the Transcend 133x card and the RiData 233x card.  They are both more than fast enough in use.  I recommend that you load your music, etc. on them using a card reader before you install them, since the card reader will be MUCH faster than the USB cable to the iriver.

If you can find a suitable SSD, that would be excellent.  But if not, the CF cards do work just fine.

xmixahlx:

--- Quote from: peteswensson on November 20, 2009, 07:07:04 PM ---If you can find a suitable SSD, that would be excellent.  But if not, the CF cards do work just fine.

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this is my idea exactly.  thanks for the tip on sector size (and that is depressing that a samsung unit did not work. bummer)

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