Make your skins non-english friendly!

[JdGordon]

I've just commited a new skin token which lets you display translated strings on the skins.
Alot of themes currently do something like "Artist: %iA" which is fine if you speak english, but crap if you dont... so please start using this new token...

use "%Sx|[Artist]|: %iA" instead

I might be persuaded to add another token so the []'s can be stripped.

every string in english.lang can be used, so if one fits where you would have used a plain string, use this.

[yapper]

Cool - good work!

[kugel.]

I might be persuaded to add another token so the []'s can be stripped.

No need for that. Those are only used in the id3 screen as of now. The [ ] can be generated at runtime, so fixing the langs to not have them is possible (I talked to rasher, everything should be fine).


EDIT: Done in SVN now. Note that you need %Sx|Artist| instead of %Sx|[Artist]| now (you can get the old effect with [%Sx|Artist|] if you wanted to).

[seani]

If I'm including plain text - "Artist Unknown" - in a conditional - %?ia<%ia|Artist Unknown> how do I "nest" this with the new language neutral format?

[JdGordon]

you cant translate arbitrary text, it has to be text which is already in the language files.
%?ia<%ia|%Sx|Artist Unknown|>  would work *if* "Artist Unknown" is a translated string already.

[seani]

you cant translate arbitrary text, it has to be text which is already in the language files.
%?ia<%ia|%Sx|Artist Unknown|>  would work *if* "Artist Unknown" is a translated string already.

Understood, so I could tradeoff a longer description for something that would translate:

%?ia<%ia|%Sx|Artist|??>

or live with a partial translation:

%?ia<%ia|%Sx|Artist| Unknown>

?


ETA

Just to be clear, in the above examples, for German, I'd expect to see:

"Künstler??" and "Künstler Unknown"


as an approximation. Of course leaving a bit untranslated might be more confusion - the word order might be different natively etc.

[JdGordon]

The first seems better... add a ": " before the ??'s though

[seani]

I get you, thanks.

Does this also apply to multi-value conditionals, like %mp  ?


ETA:

pixelma also says there's an "UNKNOWN" translation.

So combining both, if I style it as "Artist: UNKNOWN" as opposed to the phrase "Unknown Artist" it should look natural.

In this particular case it's only where an ID3 tag is missing that I display the "Artist:" or "Title:" prompt. Where the tag is present, I just display the tag value.

[JdGordon]

please dont edit posts after someone has already replied (I think you've been asked before?)

yes, you can put that tag anywhere any other tag can go

[seani]

Thanks.

Possibly, but I have no way of knowing when they cross. My edit was started before your reply was posted, or at least visible to me.

[AlexP]

Thanks.

Possibly, but I have no way of knowing when they cross. My edit was started before your reply was posted, or at least visible to me.

The forum software should warn you about this I think, unless you have turned off the "Don't warn on new replies made while posting." option.

[seani]

Hmmm.

The setting:

" Don't warn on new replies made while posting."

is unticked in my profile, which as I read it should mean I *do* get warnings, but I'm not aware of having seen any. Not to say I couldn't have clicked through on autopilot flicking between irc and the forum. I'll keep an eye open in any case.

[Llorean]

I'm not certain that option works with edits. I think it may work only with actual posts.

Generally speaking, it's better to try to avoid needing to edit by getting as much information as you can before posting.

Also, what does "ETA" mean? It's not in the list of project / related acronyms so generally we'd ask that you don't use it and try to use whole words.

[seani]

ETA = Edited To Add - it's a convention on another forum I frequent to make the change explicit, but point taken.


As far as the actual edits are concerned, the first was a response to the number of question marks in the example WPS setting that, although "correct", I thought may have made it difficult to parse (by humans)

The second was to add pertinent information from IRC that I didn't have when the post was made.

Generally I was a caught out by the unexpected speed of the responses, I'll bear all these points in mind for next time, ta.