iPod Video not recognized by Computer

[KoolMan]

I will call him today and see if he backup the OF before doing the OSOS

when i do the disk mode without it being plunged in to USB it just says ok to disconnect but when i plug it in it says OK to disconnect it does not change.

I tried another iPod Video 5.5g with the same USB Cable and the same Computer port it shows up with my computer and itunes.

So how do I get rid of the OSOS?

[torne]

I will call him today and see if he backup the OF before doing the OSOS

when i do the disk mode without it being plunged in to USB it just says ok to disconnect but when i plug it in it says OK to disconnect it does not change.

I tried another iPod Video 5.5g with the same USB Cable and the same Computer port it shows up with my computer and itunes.

So how do I get rid of the OSOS?

If it doesn't come up in disk mode then the USB hardware is broken (either the connector, or the actual logic board). There is nothing you can do other than have it repaired or repair it yourself.

ipodpatcher, itunes, windows, etc all need USB MSC mode to be working to do *anything* to the player. Getting a copy of the OF will not help you; you cannot access the drive to change what's in OSOS.

[KoolMan]

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If it doesn't come up in disk mode then the USB hardware is broken (either the connector, or the actual logic board). There is nothing you can do other than have it repaired or repair it yourself.

ipodpatcher, itunes, windows, etc all need USB MSC mode to be working to do *anything* to the player. Getting a copy of the OF will not help you; you cannot access the drive to change what's in OSOS.
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If i had a Zif HDD enclosure with a USB would that change anything? i could load things into the hard drive.

[saratoga]

If i had a Zif HDD enclosure with a USB would that change anything? i could load things into the hard drive.

No, putting new software on broken hardware wouldn't help.  Only replacing the damaged hardware will work.  But I would be quite careful in deciding that your MP3 player is really broken.

[KoolMan]

so if the ipod charges but does not connect to the computer does that mean the main board is damaged?

[dreamlayers]

If i had a Zif HDD enclosure with a USB would that change anything? i could load things into the hard drive.

You could manually restore the iPod and load music via the enclosure.  Then you could put the hard drive back into the iPod and use the iPod.  It wouldn't fix the inability to connect via USB, and you'd have to disassemble the iPod every time you wanted to put on new music.

so if the ipod charges but does not connect to the computer does that mean the main board is damaged?

When the cable and computer work properly, that is the logical conclusion.  The dock connector and all the relevant electronics are on the main board.

Did you inspect the dock connector on the iPod?  Check to see if any pins are bent or if there is dirt or oxidation in there.  Also, see if applying a bit of pressure on the plug in different directions can help.

[KoolMan]

So he did not backup the OF b4 installing OSOS
I did try a little bit of bending tilting the 30 pin but have boy checked the pins on the iPod if the are bent or not making the connection

the iPod charges so I would not say it is the dock but the software in my view

is the .iPod firmware registered to a specific iPod? Or are they all universal?

Thanks

[robin0800]

The Ipods Also have a diagnostic mode

http://www.finseth.com/parts/ipod.php

This is quite a good guide and may help

[KoolMan]

how do i exactly test the dock connection? i know its connecting and charging it with the AC but once i connect it to the computer it does not work and the battery starts to rundown fast in the so Disk mode.

Thanks

[torne]

You don't need a backup of the OF from OSOS if you have access to iTunes; if your ipod was working well enough to restore the backup with ipodpatcher then it would be working well enough to use the itunes Restore feature to return the player to its original condition; both need exactly the same USB functionality.

[KoolMan]

would using a firewire make a difference? even though the usb cable works

Edit
i tried wiggling the Dock connector but nothing.
now i a was thinking if there where a way of loading the OF to the hdd and then just executing it from there (RoLo). that might work. (iThink) but i will need a apple_os.ipod file original firmware

[torne]

The iPod Video doesn't support firewire. Only older models do.

RoLo'ing apple_os.ipod doesn't work; you can only do that for other copies of Rockbox. You don't have any way to get the file on there, anyway; if you take the disk out and access it directly you could just as easily reinstall the OF, so this is pointless.

Why are you so fixated on getting the OF to run? Do you actually not want rockbox at all, and just want the OF? You have been told time and time again that the OF will not be able to connect over USB either, so this won't fix your problem

Either get it repaired so USB works (at which point you can do whatever you like with it), or give up.

[KoolMan]

well i don't want rockbox but if it could be fixed i would used it, if not then i would like to reset it to the original firmware. so its going to have to be that i buy a new board. and do the replacement my self.

[torne]

It sounds like your USB interface is broken, as we've said; if the USB interface was fixed then Rockbox would almost certainly work fine, just the same as the original firmware. Whether you want to keep using Rockbox is up to you of course; if you don't, just hit Restore in iTunes once you get the USB fixed and iTunes will erase everything and put the OF back on there.

Just a note, though: if the current logic board is a 5.5G with 64MB of ram, and you replace it with a 5G logic board (32MB of ram), then the rockbox build installed on the player will not work properly as it will likely be a 64MB build... you can replace it with a 32MB build using the emergency disk mode, if you want to try out rockbox before you go back to the OF. If you get a 64MB logic board it should work fine whichever build is installed (the 32mb one runs fine, just less efficient).

[j8048188]

Just a note, though: if the current logic board is a 5.5G with 64MB of ram, and you replace it with a 5G logic board (32MB of ram), then the rockbox build installed on the player will not work properly as it will likely be a 64MB build... you can replace it with a 32MB build using the emergency disk mode, if you want to try out rockbox before you go back to the OF. If you get a 64MB logic board it should work fine whichever build is installed (the 32mb one runs fine, just less efficient).

I believe the latest version of rbutil auto-detects which logic board the Ipod has and automatically installs the proper version.