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bands that start with "the"

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zipr:
I think it would be useful for the id3 database generator to move the "the"s to the end too, or ignore them (even though the band is The Clash, they show up under "C").  That way, it would work more like most of my other music software (iTunes, Winamp, Mediamonkey), works.

I added it as a feature request on the wiki some time ago.  Perhaps I'll try the patch, but I have to first figure out how to make my own Rockbox.

saab_rider:
To be honest, I first became aware of this feature while I was browsing my friend's iPod. After that I made the request here in the forums, and bk was kind enough to provide the patch.

Since Rockbox is mainly used through the file browser, the patch was the perfect soloution for sorting folders with disregard to "The".

The only thing I see that's keeping this patch from being commited to CVS is that it doesn't add an option to turn this feature on or off. If someone can add such an option to the RB menu, maybe we can have this commited to CVS.

Regarding the database, it shouldn't be a problem at all to have this implemented. Only TagCache is fairly new, so just wait for a bit. I'm sure someone will come up with a soloution.

CatBus:
Actually, saab, a "File Under" tag would take care of the "featured artist" problem too.  In your example, the artist would be "50 Cent feat. Eminem" and the File Under would be either "50 Cent" or "Fifty Cent" (depending on whether you wanted it sorted literally with numbers or phonetically (that's another great option I'd like to have!).

But actually I'm fine with my Lastname, Firstname filenames and tags and don't really have a problem to solve per se.  I was just wondering aloud why I should have to develop a system that's "weird" to make myself happy, instead of there being a way to make everyone happy with the same system.

Llorean:
Really, with the arbitrary tags in WPS patch (if it were updated to allow arbitrary tags in TagCache, maybe a user-defined list of tags beyond the basic set to search for) one could fairly easily implement a "File Under" tag for Rockbox with it being completely optional and not affecting users who doesn't use it at all. You could even go beyond that to have File_Under_Album and File_Under_Artist and File_Under_Genre tags.

CatBus:
I'm not advocating Rockbox-only tagging systems because I, and I suspect most others, use other software to play our music too.  From other DAP firmware (sorry, it happens!) to PC software.  For example, if my music sorts differently on my Rockbox-enabled DAP than it does in Amarok, I think I would have actually made things harder on myself than if I'd just left things alone.

I could, I suppose, use Rockbox as a starting point for launching a new standard in tagging conventions, which could eventually spread to all software and firmware, but frankly I'm not really sure that's the best use of this project.  Or even remotely likely.  I guess deep down I'm pretty defeatist on this topic.  So it goes.

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