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database : showing trackname whith no id3 given
soap:
I wasn't trying to say parsing the track number was easy - I was attempting to say it was easier - adding that to Llorean's point that even that was not reliable.
motorbit:
i think i have to agree to you in one important point:
i do not have a good reason not to use a tag for the filename.
i have however some weak reason:
*its redunant. filename and id3tag for filename are the same in my libary. this argument only apllys to me, i confess.
*i think it is not whise *not* to do it as all the other players do it. it may feel more individual, but it also may lock out some users.
*i can not see any disatvantage by adding this little pice of acessabilty (maby i just still did not get one point, this is perfectly possible.)
--- Quote from: Llorean on August 25, 2009, 09:13:11 AM ---Yes, but using the whole filename is a bad idea for people who *don't* want the filename used as the Title.
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if the filename wuld be used as a fallback option only, tracks with id3 tag for the filename wuld not be shown any different than now.
--- Quote from: 7o9 on August 25, 2009, 08:59:28 AM ---parsing the tags based on the filename would be next to impossible without a (configurable) format string like Llorean suggested.
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i do not think there wuld be a need to configure anything - just parse the whole file name. file name is absolute, there is nothing to guess.
--- Quote from: Lear on August 25, 2009, 03:30:11 AM ---There is one problem with the argument that Rockbox shouldn't "guess" the track title if not present in the tag: it already tries to guess the track number... ;) (as Llorean added: with limited sucess)
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why rb is doing so? just take the filename, and sort alphabeticaly.
just like any other player does it.
i dont want to offend anybody, but to me it appears as if the id3 database of rb may benefit a lot from a improved error-tollerance.
gevaerts:
--- Quote from: motorbit on August 26, 2009, 12:17:19 PM ---*i think it is not whise *not* to do it as all the other players do it.
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name three
AlexP:
--- Quote from: motorbit on August 26, 2009, 12:17:19 PM ---i dont want to offend anybody, but to me it appears as if the id3 database of rb may benefit a lot from a improved error-tollerance.
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Error-tolerance or refusal-to-use-tags-for-a-tag-database-tolerance?
As has been pointed out, your proposal could increase the error for people that use a different file naming technique than you.
--- Quote from: motorbit on August 26, 2009, 12:17:19 PM ---*i think it is not whise *not* to do it as all the other players do it.
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As with gevaerts, I was unaware that *any* players did this. All other is clearly wrong.
motorbit:
ok, i tested the following players:
software:
foobar2k: shows trackname in "title" if no id3 tag is set
windows media player: shows trackname in "title" if no id3 tag is set
itunes: shows trackname in "title" if no id3 tag is set
windows media center: shows trackname in "title" if no id3 tag is set
jetaudio: shows nothing in "title" if no id3 tag is given
rockbox: shows "untagged" in "title" if no id3 tag is given
hardware:
phillips gogear HDD6330: shows trackname in "title" if no id3 tag is set
cowon D2+:shows trackname in "title" if no id3 tag is set
dont have more players installed, dont have more pmp
[edit]not only you made me use itunes, but also windows media player and windows mediacenter! shame on you! ^^ [/edit]
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