Rockbox.org home
Downloads
Release release
Dev builds dev builds
Extras extras
themes themes
Documentation
Manual manual
Wiki wiki
Device Status device status
Support
Forums forums
Mailing lists mailing lists
IRC IRC
Development
Bugs bugs
Patches patches
Dev Guide dev guide
Search



Donate

Rockbox Technical Forums


Login with username, password and session length
Home Help Search Staff List Login Register
News:

Welcome to the Rockbox Technical Forums!

+  Rockbox Technical Forums
|-+  Support and General Use
| |-+  Theming and Appearance Customization
| | |-+  WPS copy wright issues
« previous next »
  • Print
Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic: WPS copy wright issues  (Read 4652 times)

Offline creativesansa333

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26
WPS copy wright issues
« on: August 02, 2009, 08:29:35 PM »
I was browsing my hard drive and I found an old sansa e200 theme I downloaded a long time ago. It is called acotil greens and looks like windows media player 11. I liked it so I worked on porting it to the c200 and was successful. I was wondering if there are any copy wright issues because I do not know if the images were taken from the actual Windows Media Player. It looks like this but I am still not finished so it may change.

* acotil_green sansa2.PNG (7.65 kB, 132x80 - viewed 445 times.)
Logged
creative zen v plus, sandisk sansa c240+4GB micro sdhc

Offline Chronon

  • Rockbox Expert
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4379
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 01:53:25 AM »
Are the images in the theme licensed?  Unless they are licensed with a permissive license you can't reuse them and upload them with the necessary license for the theme site.
Logged
Sansa e280, Gigabeat F40, Gigabeat S60, Sansa Clip+, iPod Mini 2g

Offline BdN3504

  • Artist
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 323
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 09:18:45 AM »
i have created a port of the blackglass theme for the gigabeat f from scratch. i published it on the themes site, so it's gpl.  i also have started a wikipage hosting the source psd files. feel free, to take it and modify it to your needs. I'd be very happy, if you'd attach your resources to that wikipage, once you've finished coding and styling.

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsResources
Logged

Offline creativesansa333

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 11:23:40 AM »
Quote from: Chronon on August 03, 2009, 01:53:25 AM
Are the images in the theme licensed?  Unless they are licensed with a permissive license you can't reuse them and upload them with the necessary license for the theme site.

I'm not sure if they are licensed. I just searched google and found the site that I probably downloaded theme from. It is http://rbthemes.com/. I located the acotil greens theme in it but I do not know if it is licenced.
Logged
creative zen v plus, sandisk sansa c240+4GB micro sdhc

Offline saratoga

  • Developer
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8974
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 11:26:40 AM »
Quote from: creativesansa333 on August 03, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Chronon on August 03, 2009, 01:53:25 AM
Are the images in the theme licensed?  Unless they are licensed with a permissive license you can't reuse them and upload them with the necessary license for the theme site.

I'm not sure if they are licensed. I just searched google and found the site that I probably downloaded theme from. It is http://rbthemes.com/. I located the acotil greens theme in it but I do not know if it is licenced.

If you don't know if its licensed, it defaults to "not licensed" and you can use it yourself but not share it with others.
Logged

Offline Chronon

  • Rockbox Expert
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4379
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 07:04:34 PM »
Quote from: BdN3504 on August 03, 2009, 09:18:45 AM
i have created a port of the blackglass theme for the gigabeat f from scratch. i published it on the themes site, so it's gpl.  i also have started a wikipage hosting the source psd files. feel free, to take it and modify it to your needs. I'd be very happy, if you'd attach your resources to that wikipage, once you've finished coding and styling.

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsResources

If these resources will be used to make permissively licensed themes then I think it would be good to abide by the same licensing guidelines as for the theme site.  I.e. please include a document in the .zips that describes the licensing for the included files.  It would probably be good to put an announcement on the wiki page reminding people about this as well.
Logged
Sansa e280, Gigabeat F40, Gigabeat S60, Sansa Clip+, iPod Mini 2g

Offline karltpb

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 40
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 12:54:11 AM »
rbthemes.com states the following so you should be fine.

All themes unless otherwise stated.
Logged

Offline creativesansa333

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 11:04:50 AM »
Okay, thanks.
Logged
creative zen v plus, sandisk sansa c240+4GB micro sdhc

Offline Llorean

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12931
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 01:31:04 PM »
I seen to recall that the images in ACOTIL were ripped from another theme that took them from media player. They should not be used.
Logged

Offline soap

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1678
  • Creature of habit.
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2009, 02:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on August 30, 2009, 01:31:04 PM
I seen to recall that the images in ACOTIL were ripped from another theme that took them from media player. They should not be used.
This is correct.  The ACOTIL themes are acknowledged derivatives of the original Black Glass which is an acknowledged copy-and-paste of resources from WMP.

I think it is great if BdN3504 has created alternative resources with a "clean title".

Sorry I didn't notice this post until Llorean resurfaced it.  I've been a bit busy lately.

Logged
Rockbox Forum Guidelines
The Rockbox Manual
How to Ask Questions the Smart Way

Offline robin0800

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 291
  • Freeman
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2009, 03:10:09 PM »
Just checked http://www.rockbox.org/tw...in/view/Main/WpsResources and there appears to be no licence information on it.
Also are .psd files readily accessible to wps users? I think a .bmp or .jpeg and if many files perhaps zip them
Logged

Offline BdN3504

  • Artist
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 323
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2009, 03:32:58 PM »
what do you mean by there's no license information? these are files belonging to the theme blackglass, as mentioned on that page (you posted a wrong link btw) and that theme is clearly licensed gpl. this page is intended only for files belonging to themes that are uploaded to the themes site. if you do not comply to the themes site rules (which include licensing) you are not allowed to upload to that page (i'll delete the content). so licensing is very clear.
Logged

Offline soap

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1678
  • Creature of habit.
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2009, 04:49:16 PM »
I edited that wiki page, BdN3504, as the wiki theme pages really shouldn't be edited anymore - except to cull themes once they get properly placed on the new theme site.
As Chronon said, if the theme isn't permissively licensed and its resources aren't - Rockbox doesn't want to add it to the Rockbox collection.  I'll add that if the theme is permissively licensed it should be on the theme site, not the old wiki pages.
Therefore no need to add a link to the resources on the wiki galleries.
Logged
Rockbox Forum Guidelines
The Rockbox Manual
How to Ask Questions the Smart Way

Offline BdN3504

  • Artist
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 323
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2009, 04:56:34 PM »
agree, i just left that link in there because the wpswiki allows for cumulative uploads as in the theme mentioned on the wpsresources page. can the link to that package still remain on that page, or do you want to have it removed, too?
Logged

Offline Llorean

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12931
Re: WPS copy wright issues
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 04:58:22 PM »
And just because a theme is permissively licensed does NOT mean that its source data is.

I can permissively license a 100x100 thumbnail of an image without permissively licensing the whole image.

So, you need to always be explicit about the licensing. Licenses like CC-by-SA go *down* the chain of derivative works, but not up to source materials.
Logged

  • Print
Pages: [1] 2
« previous next »
+  Rockbox Technical Forums
|-+  Support and General Use
| |-+  Theming and Appearance Customization
| | |-+  WPS copy wright issues
 

  • SMF 2.0.17 | SMF © 2019, Simple Machines
  • Rockbox Privacy Policy
  • XHTML
  • RSS
  • WAP2

Page created in 0.122 seconds with 15 queries.