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Re: AIGO EROS Q / AIGO EROS K / IRULU Surfans F20 / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2
« Reply #195 on: January 21, 2023, 03:28:06 PM »
Quote from: dconrad on January 18, 2023, 12:33:39 AM
That's the part I'm not sure of either. You would be looking for like a dBV or dBu value - I don't know if there is some capability of using a calibration or setting for your specific model of sound card or something like that.

I haven't had any luck coaxing this value out using software.  Is this something that can be measured with a multimeter?  I was thinking of getting one anyway.  If so, what specific capability should I try to include in the meter?
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Re: AIGO EROS Q / AIGO EROS K / IRULU Surfans F20 / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2
« Reply #196 on: January 22, 2023, 12:46:57 PM »
Quote from: speakn2pabst on January 21, 2023, 03:28:06 PM
I haven't had any luck coaxing this value out using software.  Is this something that can be measured with a multimeter?  I was thinking of getting one anyway.  If so, what specific capability should I try to include in the meter?

Yeah I think a multimeter will work - you would use the AC Volts function. I think you would want to use a test file of maybe like 100Hz too - wall voltage is about 60 Hz in most places so that low frequency range what most multimeters are optimized to read. I don't know if they advertise something like "extended AC frequency", but that might be good. I don't know if you're familiar with Vrms measurements but they'll need to be converted to dBV to be comparable to the numbers we already have.

Edit 2: Looks like it's been merged, so just grab the latest build and let me know if everything works as expected!

EDIT: I finally got around to putting together a patch to enable line out - if you want to download it, build it and try it out, it's here: https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/5087. I tried it out and it's working well on my player, but I would definitely like to hear if it works as intended on yours as well.
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Re: AIGO EROS Q / AIGO EROS K / IRULU Surfans F20 / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2
« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2023, 11:50:42 PM »
I tried the zip listed on the AIGO Eros Q wiki page within the Native Port area and yes, the Line Out is working on my device with this version.  Great!

I'm still trying to make heads and tails of my multimeter so still need time to report a reading.  I haven't used one before and the closest memory in the ballpark would be using an oscilloscope and signal generator back in a Physics class many moons ago.  But I'm trying to get refreshed and will keep at it.

P.S. - I installed Room EQ Wizard for my distro and this is able to generate test WAV files for different frequencies.  So I have my 100 Hz test file at least.
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Re: AIGO EROS Q / AIGO EROS K / IRULU Surfans F20 / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2
« Reply #198 on: January 26, 2023, 02:02:15 AM »
OK playing a 100 Hz sine test file I got a reading of -0.4 mV from the Line Out.

I think that converts to -8 dBV but I would suggest checking that.
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Re: AIGO EROS Q / AIGO EROS K / IRULU Surfans F20 / AGPTek H3 / HIFI WALKER H2
« Reply #199 on: January 26, 2023, 10:18:05 AM »
Quote from: speakn2pabst on January 25, 2023, 11:50:42 PM
I tried the zip listed on the AIGO Eros Q wiki page within the Native Port area and yes, the Line Out is working on my device with this version.  Great!

I'm still trying to make heads and tails of my multimeter so still need time to report a reading.  I haven't used one before and the closest memory in the ballpark would be using an oscilloscope and signal generator back in a Physics class many moons ago.  But I'm trying to get refreshed and will keep at it.

P.S. - I installed Room EQ Wizard for my distro and this is able to generate test WAV files for different frequencies.  So I have my 100 Hz test file at least.

OK playing a 100 Hz sine test file I got a reading of -0.4 mV from the Line Out.

I think that converts to -8 dBV but I would suggest checking that.

Sounds good, I'll update wiki to reflect that we have line out on the new devices now. Thanks so much for testing!

Are you sure you're using the AC Voltage setting on the multimeter? I don't think they typically give a negative reading in that mode (and I don't think a negative rms voltage really makes sense). Also, just to be sure, the file you created is "full scale", or maximum volume? When I did the same thing for my device, I just used Audacity to create a full-scale tone and exported to WAV.

Edit: For reference, I think you'll probably get a voltage reading somewhere around 2 Vrms.
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