DATA ABORT

[Llorean]

The "Current Build" is not a release. It really does mean "current" as in "the very most recent one our servers made." It's a development build.

The number you're seeing while holding >>|| is the version number for your bootloader, not for your build.

[MOREloss]

ok so to fix it i would just have to install the rockbox stable using the utility right without uninstalling the current build because what im hearing is that the current build is more like an update instead of the actual thing. rockbox utility -> installation tab -> install rockbox button - > rockbox stable?

i want to get this right since it seems like its working good now without issues. i tried playing the exact same nirvana - smells like teen spirit song that gave me problems before and it worked fine. hopefully it stays like that.

[gevaerts]

ok so to fix it i would just have to install the rockbox stable using the utility right without uninstalling the current build because what im hearing is that the current build is more like an update instead of the actual thing. rockbox utility -> installation tab -> install rockbox button - > rockbox stable?

If you want to go back to the stable build (3.1) that's the way, yes. If it's working fine now you could of course also just leave it as-is.

[woyciesjes]

too late. ...well it seems like it got fix. i reformated and everything. ill just have to wait and see but now i have a different problem that arose from all this. this problem involves the connection. before i did this it would connect to the computer just fine and charge. but now when it connects to the computer it seems like it doesnt connect completely because it no longer goes to the do not disconnect screen it just stays in a screen before that and it doesnt charge for some reason. i have no idea why. it never did this before until now. anyone have any ideas.

   This sounds like what happens when you hold the Menu (?) button while connecting the USB cable. That is supposed to let it charge, but not "connect" to the OS on the computer. This way you can continue to use the iPod normally while it's charging. But you say your's is not charging? Odd...
    Have you tried rebooting to the iPod firmware to see how that behaves?

[Chronon]

Actually, this sounds like proper behavior.  He reports that it does connect to the computer -- it just doesn't go to the "Do Not Disconnect" screen (which is Apple's Disk Mode).  Current Rockbox builds have USB support enabled.  Rockbox 3.1 did not.

[woyciesjes]

  Well, for my version, r20102-090225, I get the Do not Disconnect screen.
 Plus he also mentioned that his does not seem to be charging...

[Chronon]

That build is about 3 revisions before USB mode was enabled.  Try a current build if you'd like to try it (and assuming that your iPod contains a PP502x chip).

[woyciesjes]

   Okay, I'll give it a shot when I get a chance next week....

[Llorean]

It would really help if you try not to give advice based on outdated versions. It can confuse issues much further than necessary.

[MOREloss]

well i installed the rockbox stable and its working good now. i hope it stays that way.
thanks for all the help.

[woyciesjes]

It would really help if you try not to give advice based on outdated versions. It can confuse issues much further than necessary.

     I know it _could_ be confusing, but that is why I always specify which version I'm using.

    When troubleshooting issues, more datapoints are always handy; and people can be alerted when there are new features added since the version they are using (as in my case here).

[Llorean]

When someone says "Current Builds of Rockbox have USB enabled" and you say "Well, for my version..." your use of language indicates that you feel your version is working differently than it should.

If you wish to help and provide support in this forum, it's your responsibility to keep up to date with how Rockbox changes. Many users don't know about revisions, so they might not be aware that the revision number you quoted isn't the current build. It's not their responsibility to know, it's yours to be as knowledgeable and clear as possible if you wish to be helpful.

Generally, don't talk about builds that aren't current at all, unless it's a discussion involving the last release. If you wish to discuss behaviour you're experiencing, update to the latest build and make sure it still happens.

More datapoints aren't always handy. Irrelevant ones (such as ones for builds that we no longer provide support for) just confuse those who don't know that they're irrelevant.

[woyciesjes]

    Well, yes, my version _is_ working differently. That's way I responded with what version I had, because it was not entirely clear from Chronon as to when the feature was added. So I could find out if my version was supposed to have it or not. He then very helpfully replied that my version didn't have it, so I haven't said anything since; no time yet to update.

   I do try to stay up with when features are added to Rockbox, and I do recall discussions about USB Support being tested, but never saw any "announcement" that it had been added to Current builds. 'Tis possible I may have missed it. If so, where should I have been looking?

[saratoga]

    Well, yes, my version _is_ working differently. That's way I responded with what version I had, because it was not entirely clear from Chronon as to when the feature was added. So I could find out if my version was supposed to have it or not. He then very helpfully replied that my version didn't have it, so I haven't said anything since; no time yet to update.

In general, if you haven't put forward the minimum effort to make your reply useful or informative, you probably should not make it at all. 

   I do try to stay up with when features are added to Rockbox, and I do recall discussions about USB Support being tested, but never saw any "announcement" that it had been added to Current builds. 'Tis possible I may have missed it. If so, where should I have been looking?

First project news entry on the main page.

[bluebrother]

First project news entry on the main page.

and the usual place for major changes, linked directly from the front page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges