DATA ABORT

[MOREloss]

I use rockbox when its not connected to the pc. for example when im outside my house sitting on the porch or whatever and i get these data abort issues where the ipod stops working and freezes exactly how it says on many other forum posts. ive read many of them and the solutions are always the same which is to post the mp3 on the net and update rockbox, which i did and it still has issues. now i have more than 3000 files on my ipod which are normal mp3s not itunes altered files can you imagine how much time i would have to invest to try and fix all the mp3s that rockbox has problems with. ive been using rockbox for more than a year and it always gave me the same problem "data abort at address"
when the ipod is connected to computer the files which are on the ipod are played on the computer since the ipod is like a portable external drive for me. it has more than 3000 songs. actually the ipod doesnt show as e:\ it shows as z:\ since i wanted it as a consistant drive that would not change letters everytime i plugged it in since i have other things i plug and unplug constantly. "folder _on the iPod_" i have nothing in that folder since like i said before i use my ipod as a mini external hard drive and the mp3 files i use are directly dragged from the computer onto the ipod drive. when you say to play the song with a player on the computer i do directly from the ipod all the time, i dont play the song on the computer from the computer. all the songs that get the data abort issue always play fine on the computer when i connect the ipod and play them from the ipod on the computer. i have never gotten any issues with that. for example the songs i posted below play fine.

nirvana - smells like teen spirit
weezer - holiday
elliott smith - speed trials

yes youre right i did say im not very big on the technical side of computers and im sures you guys are but it doesnt take a genius of an IQ of 1000 to notice that its a rockbox bug. well, whatever i think ill just take rockbox off my ipod, that will solve all our problems and ive already spent hours trying to figure out whats wrong with this thing by posting here. besides i dont want an mp3 player that cant play mp3s consistantly. the ipod software that came with the ipod might not have been as fancy as rockbox but atleast it did what it was supposed to which was play the damn music consistantly without failure. thank you for the help anyway, atleast you guys tried.

[woyciesjes]

    Don't worry, I understand the frustration you're having. Just work with me, and we should be able to nail down the problem, okay?

   Okay, so you have tried using something like Windows Media player to play the "Holiday" mp3 file that exists on your Z:\ drive, correct? And it works fine that way?

   You said you updated Rockbox. Did you update it tonight? And if so, did you update to the Stable v 3.1, or did you install current?

   Here are a couple of things to try (I assume you have a backup copy of all you music that's currently on the iPod, right?):
- Scandisk - Go to the Start Menu - Accessories - System tools. Open that, choose Z:\ (assuming your iPod is plugged in:) and have it fix everything. There are 2 check boxes. Check both.
- Reformat - Make sure all of your music is backed up elsewhere first! Connect the iPod, open iTunes, and choose the Restore button. Once this is done reinstall Rockbox. If you use the Rockbox Utility, don't use the quick install on the first tab. If you go to the second tab, there is another install button. There you can choose to use a current version. Try that. Or you can get a current build here: http://build.rockbox.org/

    I mention these 2 things to try because there could be a bad block or some other error on the hard drive in your iPod. Try the scandisk option first. If it finds bad blocks, it will mark them as such, so they won't get used again...

   When I said "folder _on the iPod_" I was referring to the folder on your Z:\ that contains your music. The folder name can vary for each person... Sorry for the confusion.

[MOREloss]

well ill try some of that but it will probably take me a while since a lot of the music isnt backed up. thats why i play the music on my computer from the ipod when its connected. and yes its frustrating. imagine your walking along the park listening to your ipod and it freezes and gets the error so you restart it. so then youre like this has happened before and if i play the song it will freeze again so you play another song and it does the same thing then another and then well by that time your furious because its a freeking ipod. what good is a ipod that cant play music???
im probably going to have to put it on my computer and burn it all. GOD! that shit sounds like a lot of work. its going to take a couple of days. ill get back to you in a couple of days if i decide to do that if not ill figure something else out. thanks for the suggestions.

[woyciesjes]

    Sounds like a good plan. Speaking from personal experience, you should always have a backup copy of your important files & music. You never know when something bad could happen, like you iPod getting stolen...

    Let us know how you make out.

[soap]

and the solutions are always the same which is to post the mp3 on the net and update rockbox, which i did and it still has issues.

Where have you posted a copy of one of these tracks which consistently causes Rockbox to crash.  The request isn't for a list of files which crash it - but a specific file which crashes Rockbox at a repeatable point.

now i have more than 3000 files on my ipod which are normal mp3s not itunes altered files can you imagine how much time i would have to invest to try and fix all the mp3s that rockbox has problems with.

Nobody has asked you to fix the MP3 files.

ive been using rockbox for more than a year and it always gave me the same problem "data abort at address"

Sorry it has taken so long, but here is what you do.
Load version 3.1
Crash Rockbox as often as you can.
Report exactly what the Data Abort error numbers are

well, whatever i think ill just take rockbox off my ipod, that will solve all our problems and ive already spent hours trying to figure out whats wrong with this thing by posting here.

You've been, no offense, missing the point of what has been requested of you as explained above.
Stick with it, or not.  Your choice - but if you follow the easy steps I outlined above this won't take long.



Don't format.  Do the disk scan.  You don't need to remove your files to do this.  The only files which will be lost by this proces would be ones which are already hosed.
This will take no intervention on your part and will take no time, no burning, no nothing.

[woyciesjes]

Don't format.  Do the disk scan.  You don't need to remove your files to do this.  The only files which will be lost by this process would be ones which are already hosed.
This will take no intervention on your part and will take no time, no burning, no nothing.

Okay, I suppose I should've clarified my position a little...

Backups - Even if everythign is working fine, you should _always_ have a current backup of your important files.

Sacndisk - I, personally, backup the files on an external drive before the scandisk. Sometimes the files come out okay, and be fiddled with, other times it's better to have the borked file than nothing. 'Course, depends on the file type. BUt yes, the files can stay on the iPod. The big benefit of Scandisk is it marks bad blocks as bad, so they don't get used later...

Reformat - Yes, this is the big hammer approach. But there cold be something else screwy on the HDD. I have had some odd problems where the only fix was a reformat. Rare, but it has happened to me.

[Domonoky]

It would be good to know which rockbox build he uses.
I.e: is it the ipod 5.5g 30gig or the 60/80gig version ?

There are reports of refurbished players which had a 80gig HD but were really a 5.5g 30gig version.
And as the 60/80gig version has more ram, it might easily cause data aborts if you dont have the ram.

[woyciesjes]

   Hopefully he'll come back with those details, and work with us...

[MOREloss]

i just decided to back up my things from the ipod and reformat it. i have to back up the things anyway so ill just reformat it.

[woyciesjes]

     Okay. Make sure you check the backup _before_ you reformat/restore.

[soap]

i just decided to back up my things from the ipod and reformat it.

Why reformat?  You're not helping us help you by reformating.

[Febs]

Before you waste your time reformatting, do two other things:

1.  Install this build and then report back as to whether it solves the problem: http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip

2.  Turn on your iPod and then immediately hold down the >>|  button.   Some text will be displayed.  The first two lines will say what version of the bootloader you have installed.  Report that version to us.

[MOREloss]

too late. ...well it seems like it got fix. i reformated and everything. ill just have to wait and see but now i have a different problem that arose from all this. this problem involves the connection. before i did this it would connect to the computer just fine and charge. but now when it connects to the computer it seems like it doesnt connect completely because it no longer goes to the do not disconnect screen it just stays in a screen before that and it doesnt charge for some reason. i have no idea why. it never did this before until now. anyone have any ideas.

[Llorean]

You were running an outdated version of Rockbox that didn't have USB. It rebooted into the original firmware. Now you're using the Rockbox USB code, which still has a few kinks to work out (note that you're using a development build, not the last stable build).

[MOREloss]

well i loaded the current build with the utility program barely today, im pretty sure its the most recent of all releases. i also tried to hold the >>|| when it loads and it says that its version 3.0. any suggestions?