DATA ABORT

[MOREloss]

Ive been having problems with rockbox for a long time because when i play certain mp3 files I get a message such as "data abort at 'number'".  I have a 5.5g ipod. Ive searched the forums for answers but so far i havent found any satisfatory ones yet. Just today i had that message with 5 different mp3 files. Its really frustrating when im listening to music and suddenly it just freezes. This is starting to make me think that rockbox is trash. I dont like thinking that because rockbox has a lot of potential. If someone can help me fix this I would be very grateful. I really would.

[Llorean]

Well, you could start by saying what player you have, what version of Rockbox you're running (SVN revision or stable release number), when you last updated your bootloader, and the actual address the data aborts are occurring at.

[woyciesjes]

    It would also be good to know details about the mp3 files that were playing at the time...
Bitrate, length, size...
Did you rip them yourself? Or get them from somewhere else?
Do the errors occur at the same point in the song each time, or is it random?
Do the mp3s play fine in any other music player? Portable or computer?

IOW, could the mp3s be corrupt?

[MOREloss]

I doubt its the mp3s. Its happened to me so many times its almost like am i going to get that error with this song as well. Well to list some songs (cant list all since its just too many and i have thousands of songs in my ipod).

the version of rockbox that i have is the latest one.
I didnt rip the mp3s myself. I got them off a friend. the errors do seem to occur at the same points in the songs.

version r19569-081223

three songs that i remember had this error just today are

nirvana - smells like teen spirit
weezer - holiday
elliott smith - speed trials

[Llorean]

Please try updating to the most recent version of Rockbox, and check the files for errors. If they always fail in the same place it's likely an issue with the files and although it may still be a Rockbox problem, knowing what exactly is unique about that point in those files will be helpful. Song names, on the other hand, aren't helpful. It's unlikely your file for that song is exactly identical to that of other people.

[MOREloss]

the thing is that im not very big when the technical side when it comes to computers and their details. I dont exactly know what youre looking for in regards to the mp3 files. all i know is that the mp3 file is 192 vbr. the message i get in  a song called elliott smith - speed trials is data abort at 000098BC



and as far as the files having problems. i highly doubt that since they work perfectly fine on the computer, on an old mp3 discman i have an even on the old "shitty" ipod software so one can only assume that the rockbox software is so fragile and so buggy that it crashes at the slightest variation in mp3 files. i mean this isnt the first time ive gotten this data abort issue. ive gotten it so many other times. i would appreciate if this could be fixed because dont get me wrong i like the rockbox software its just that its frustrating when things like this keep happening over and over and over. this issue has happened dozens of times.

[Llorean]

You do realize, don't you, that when you copy the files to the player they aren't the same files any more? It's very possible for them to be corrupted during copying.

As well, apparently you have chosen to ignore my suggestion to update to the most recent version. Please, do that.

We can't magically fix the problem without knowing what's going on, and that's going to require knowing what, exactly, it is about these files that causes the crash. The fact that you're experiencing it and nobody else is is a telling factor that it's something to do with the files, and not just Rockbox itself.

It'd also help if you try to make sure you actually answer every question asked. For example, you still haven't told me what player you have.

[MOREloss]

i am updating to the most recent version. actually im not the first who has experience this problem, not at all. if you type data abort in the search engine their will be alot of people that experience the same issues. i tried reading many of them and it just seemed that none really gave me a real solution on the matter so i decided to post on the forum. keep in mind this isnt the first thime it has happened. like i said i have thousands of files in my ipod. trying to fix each one when it has the data abort problem would just be a lot of investment of time that i dont have. also i think it is the rockbox software since when i had this problem i would update the soft ware and the data abort would disappear from some songs and move on to other songs that didnt experience that issue before.

http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=search2;params=c2VhcmNofCd8ZGF0YSBhYm9ydHwifGFkdmFuY2VkfCd8MHwifG1hdGNoX21vZGV8J3xzbWFydHwifGJyZHwnfDM4LDM3LDQ5LDI0LDI1LDI2LDI3LDI4LDQxLDM0LDI5LDMwLDMxLDMyLDQ1LDQ2LDQ3LDMzLDM2LDE2fCJ8c2hvd19jb21wbGV0ZXwnfHwifHN1YmplY3Rfb25seXwnfHwifHNvcnR8J3xyZWxldmFuY2V8Inxzb3J0X2RpcnwnfGRlc2M=

[gevaerts]

i am updating to the most recent version. actually im not the first who has experience this problem, not at all. if you type data abort in the search engine their will be alot of people that experience the same issues.

That doesn't mean anything. Data aborts can be caused by hundreds of things, so we really need specific information

[woyciesjes]

Llorean had a good point about possible file corruption during copying. What happens if you connect your iPod to the computer, then use other media players (try all of the ones you have on your computer) to play the affected songs on/from the iPod itself, and not from your library on the computer?

[MOREloss]

all always play the files on the computer from the ipod. i have for a long time now. all the same files and i have never ever had any issues. ive read many of the post when i search the forums and alot seem to be the same problems im having. many look like this "data abort at 'insert number here.'"

[Llorean]

"Data Abort at ADDRESS" does not mean it's the same problem. There are thousands of things that can go wrong and cause data aborts.

It's like turning on your TV and seeing static. Is the TV broken? Is the cable out? Is the cable box broken? Etc, etc.

It's an error message that helps track down the problem. And that number tells us more specifically where the problem is. So please, don't assume their problem is the same as yours.

You've still basically avoided answering questions or trying it with an updated version. You could also perform a scandisk on your player.

If you're going to just sit there and say "It's Rockbox's fault" and not participate at all in us trying to actually find out what's wrong, there's no possible way we can help you or solve the problem.

[woyciesjes]

   Okay, to make sure I'm following your post right. You only use your Rockbox-iPod when it's connected to the PC?
   And you have Rockbox playing the files on your PC, and not the ones on your iPod?

    If I understand Rockbox right, this is not possible. The files have to be copied to the HDD in the iPod for Rockbox to see & play them.

    My suggestion goes like this:
Connect iPod to computer. It'll show up as a drive letter, e.g. E:\
Open My Computer (or explorer, your choice) and navigate to the folder _on the iPod_ that contains the problem songs. (E:\music or whatever)
Play _that_ song file in Windows Media Player, or whatever other media player you have on your computer.

[saratoga]

the thing is that im not very big when the technical side when it comes to computers and their details.

Then why are you trying to tell people who are what to do? 

[woyciesjes]

     Now let's be gentlemen about this. We're trying to find an answer to MOREloss's problem. Hopefully he is now trying our suggestions, and will post back the results. Then we can take it from there.