USB for c2XX, e2XX, M:Robe 100, H10, iPod 4G, Mini, Mini 2G, Nano, Color & Video

[dumbears]

Is there anyway to sync with iTunes for iPod with the current build?

[AlexP]

Yes, reboot to the Apple firmware and do it there as normal.

[shayguitarra]

Running 5th Gen 80GB iPod Video on pc with Kubuntu 8.10

I've tried a number of the current builds over the past few days and I've seen similar problems to mine on this thread. But just to explain it specifically:

When I plug in my iPod I see the usb connect screen which then fades to blank so I can't see the status of my charging battery. It mounts as normal and I can drag and drop/copy etc with no problem.

But, if I even touch my controls/press select or whatever to check my battery status, it seems to unmount/eject and remount itself.

When I eject normally it goes back to the menu screen, but one of two things happens: It either wants to initialise the database or else the disk seems to update itself forever, basically until it kills the battery.

I've reverted back to the stable 3.1 which gives me the 'do not disconnect and ok to disconnect messages on the iPod screen and a clearer battery charge indicator.

Now I understand from reading this thread that this functionality is something that has been eagerly awaited (I'm not an expert on usb functionality so I don't fully understand why) but I have never had a problem on any of the previous versions. I'm a little worried that due to this when the stable 3.2 comes out I'll be forced to remain with 3.1, simply due to this usb problem.

It could be a problem specific to my pc, but if not and you think it's fixable and need more information please let me know.

[dreamlayers]

Running 5th Gen 80GB iPod Video on pc with Kubuntu 8.10

I've tried a number of the current builds over the past few days and I've seen similar problems to mine on this thread. But just to explain it specifically:

When I plug in my iPod I see the usb connect screen which then fades to blank so I can't see the status of my charging battery. It mounts as normal and I can drag and drop/copy etc with no problem.

The backlight shuts off according to the "Backlight (While Plugged In)" setting and then the screen shuts off according to the "Sleep (After Backlight Off)" setting.  This is normal.  These settings are found in Settings -> General Settings -> Display -> LCD Settings.

But, if I even touch my controls/press select or whatever to check my battery status, it seems to unmount/eject and remount itself.

If you press MENU, your iPod should unmount and not remount.  If you press any other button or touch the wheel in any way, that should turn on the backlight and LCD, but it should not cause the iPod to unmount.

If anything other than MENU causes unmounting, see if disabling LCD sleep helps.

[shayguitarra]

The backlight shuts off according to the "Backlight (While Plugged In)" setting and then the screen shuts off according to the "Sleep (After Backlight Off)" setting.  This is normal.  These settings are found in Settings -> General Settings -> Display -> LCD Settings.

Yes that's the most obvious explanation and I should have thought of it. I've disabled the backlight off option when plugged in.

If anything other than MENU causes unmounting, see if disabling LCD sleep helps.

That's worked. I've tried mounting and unmounting a couple of times, pressing buttons and scrolling and it stayed mounted. After I ejected properly, the menu button brought me back to the main menu. This also seems to have solved the initialise database and updating problem too. So maybe there was a connection.

Marvellous. Thanks a lot.

[soap]

Is there anyway to sync with iTunes for iPod with the current build?

Yes, reboot to the Apple firmware and do it there as normal.

OR
modify firmware/export/config-YOURIPODMODEL.h
and change the USB_VENDOR_ID and USB_PRODUCT_ID defines to the real ones for an iPod. 
IIUC

[gevaerts]

Is there anyway to sync with iTunes for iPod with the current build?

Yes, reboot to the Apple firmware and do it there as normal.

OR
modify firmware/export/config-YOURIPODMODEL.h
and change the USB_VENDOR_ID and USB_PRODUCT_ID defines to the real ones for an iPod. 
IIUC

uhm, no. The ids used are the ones for that particular ipod. Itunes doesn't like it for different reasons (ipods have proprietary SCSI extensions)

[soap]

Damn!   
Ok, are the product / vendor ID all that is needed for for any of the alternative iPod managers?
Would be good to know.

[randalf]

A question regarding USB and the e280. Will it work reliably on a Mac? I'd test this myself, but the e280 and Mac (Powerbook, I think, running OS 10.26, I think) are in Chicago, at my sister's, and I am in North Carolina. I bought the Sansa for her as a gift, but she's been unable to get the Sansa firmware to work reliably with the Mac, and of course (although Rockboxed) it's needed to be in the Sansa firmware for file transfers.

So will equipping her Sansa with USB-enabled Rockbox help her Mac to play nicely with the player at last?

Many thanks....

Hi, i had the same Problem you described with a sansa e280 under MacOs.
I was able to acces the device on my Powerbook using Linux but not with OSX.
I solved this Issue by downgrading the original Firmware to Version 01.01.11A.
Perhaps the Rockbox-USB mode is solving the Problem as well.

[ThaCrip]

"Note that the USB stack is not enabled for the 3.2 release. It's only enabled in current development builds."

that's not true right? ... because i thought it works 'well enough' to the point where it can be included in v3.2

[Llorean]

No, it doesn't. There are still problems with it (charging in iPods, a problem we might have just solved on Sansas regarding resets, and the fact that iTunes will reject an iPod using it still which is one we still have to decide if we even want to resolve since we're not really an iPod software-wise anyway).

If you want the USB stack, current builds with it enabled will still be an option. But it's not good enough to go into a release, yet, due to these problems showing up.

[ThaCrip]

ok thanks for the reply.

so in other words it (USB Support) will probably be in v3.3 which is due around June 23rd 2009?

i know you cant give any guarantee's but based on what your telling me it sounds like those issues seem somewhat minor (assuming you fixed the Sansa issue you mentioned) , especially if the development team aint even sure if it's going to fix the iTunes issues you spoke of.

so based on that, 'as of now' i would assume it's a safe bet that USB support will be in v3.3?

p.s. but since you have confirmed that USB is not going to be in the official v3.2 release ill probably just keep updating my builds from the 'current build' page from time to time until v3.3 is out.

[Llorean]

It's impossible to say whether the solutions we have are the right ones yet. It may be that the things we think will work won't, in which case it won't be in 3.3 either. No way to predict.

[stall3]

USB doesn't seem to work for me.  I have an E280 r20347-090317. Kingston 16gb microsdhc.

Rockbox works fine. Boots fine. Under files I have a <microSD1> folder which I can browse to through rockbox.

When I plug in the usb, I see the rockbox usb icon, the player mounts as G:\ on my pc. I can browse all the folders through XP SP2 explorer, but I don't see the microsd storage.

When I eject and then reinstert the micosdhc while connected via usb, my mouse turns into an hourglass for a split second as-if it's detecting the insert and eject everytime. So close, but nothing, denied.

oh, and just a side note, ROCKBOX RULES. Thank-you so much for developing it!

update: 03/19/2009 - I just tried the USB mode on a vista pc, with the same results.  It didn't work.

-S3

[fireye]

On the Sansa e2xx series of players, the MicroSD card mounts as a seperate removable drive in windows.  Both Rockbox and the default firmware do this.  So instead of looking just in G:\, look for another new removable drive as well! 

Hope this helps.