rockboxing e250r did all steps still no rockbox

[mooses9]

ok i decided to make a name and try to get some inside help i have been going at this for like 5 hours now straight and cant seem to find my way into getting this to be rock boxed! i have went from making my player completely bricked to fixing it back to factory and now trying to get the rock box back on it

i taken all directed steps ie:

unlocked the firmware via e200patcher
changed the pp5022 file to the OF and inserted it into the system file
put the pp502 file into the root directory
extracted the rockbox straight to the root of the mp3 player
i eject the mp3 player
it reboots, refreshes, loads firmware
 AND BAM STILL OF

i have the newest version of e200 firmware for rockbox, the 1.0.2.31 sansa firmware
what am i doing wrong here i dont get it

completely at a loss...

also my 4 year old has the same non rhapsody sansa player and i rockboxed his like nothing, and this one is just CRAZY i must be ,missing somethnig

[Chronon]

The instructions don't involve any pp502 file.  Double check that you named everything correctly.  Also, can you describe in detail what happens when you boot?  Is there any evidence, like a black background with white text, that the Rockbox bootloader is present? 

A non-Rhapsody player has a different installation process.  It seems there's some detail with this process that isn't going exactly right.

Edit: Did you reboot another time?  You shouldn't see Rockbox until an additional reboot.

[mooses9]

this is the phapsody e250r so i did all the steps:

i did the 1st step i unlocked the firmware.

then it says proseed to step 2

Make a folder named sansa on your desktop
Download the following file and place it inside the new sansa directory: rhapsody-1.0.2.31.zip
Unzip this file to receive pp5022.mi4
Rename the resulting file to OF.mi4 (Oh, not Zero - as in Original Firmware)
Right-click to download the following file and place it inside the sansa folder: pp5022.mi4

with i recieve the pp5022.mi4 file and  then rename it OF.MI4 install it in the system file , then take the other pp5022.mi4 and install it in the root, then i extract the rockbox to the root

i unplug the player it reboots refreshes database then it upgrades firmware, but it seems like it is just upgrading the firmware to the 1.0.2.31 firmware OS becuase im putting the pp5022.mi4 file in the root and it uses that to reboot and upgrade firmware but only to the 1.0.2.31 firmware or at least that is what it seems like its doing.

AM i doing something wrong with the files i sohuld be putting in the root and system folder?

also there is no trace of rockbox no screen no nothing, its just like upgrading factory firmware becuase that is all i seem to be getting.

i haveto be missing something somewhere


after it reboots and updates firmware and reboot again i reboot it again and still nothing no rockbox just still getting the 1.0.2.31 firmware

should i be placing the whole folder inside the mp3 player i make on my desktop or am i just using that to store all the downloaded files?

it seems like im having no problems updating the firmware but its updating to OF and not rockbox

[Chronon]

What is the size of the OF.mi4 that's in the "system" folder?  I almost suspect that the files got switched: The firmware updated, but there's no evidence of the Rockbox bootloader afterward.

[mooses9]

the file in the system folder is 73kb and the file in the root is 5,613kb

i think that is what happens becuase it does update the firmware but no rockbox boot loader

also i updated the sansa to the .165 from the .31 firmware

and then proceeded to do the rockbox process and it downgraded my firmware from the .165 back to the .31 so obviously for whatever reason the firmware it updating to the root file im putting in thr mp3 player and that would be the .31 firmware.

so then how do i make it so the rockbox boot loader works?

[Chronon]

Yes, it seems you switched the two.  Download the files one at a time and make sure they end up where they need to go. 

[mooses9]

i went into recovery mode, and installed the of file and extracted the rockbox and the rockbox white screen and then it tried to load but it said it couldnt find the rockbox mi4 file

what files do i have switched, the 73kb and the 5,613kb?

[Chronon]

You only needed to rename and switch the files, not enter recovery mode. 

That message means that the Rockbox bootloader can't find /.rockbox/rockbox.mi4.

Edit: If you're getting a message about a missing rockbox.mi4 it means that the Rockbox bootloader has been installed.  If you're confused about what state your player is in it's totally acceptable to use recovery mode to restore the original firmware and then follow the "Step 2" instructions carefully.

The 73kb file is the Rockbox bootloader.  It needs to be named pp5022.mi4 and be put in the root of the player so that the firmware update installs it in place of the original firmware.  The larger file is the original firmware and needs to be named OF.mi4 and placed in the /system/ folder.

[mooses9]

well i kinda got somewhere, when i was in recovery mode, i loaded all 3 the OF,pp and rockbox and then rebooted and rockbox loaded, HOWEVER when i plug it into the the usb the screen flashes when then the rockbox backdrop and over and over, whats the deal there?

at least i have rockbox installed? lol

[Llorean]

Please, please don't just experiment. Especially with recovery mode. NOTHING should ever tell you to put a Rockbox's main binary on the file in recovery mode.

You now must recover your player properly before you can get things worked out. Previously you didn't need to.

[Chronon]

Stop.  If you aren't careful with recovery mode you can get your player into a much less functional state.  I didn't tell you to do that and there are no instructions that tell you to do this.

From this point do the following steps.

1) Enter recovery mode and put only the original firmware file onto the player.
2) Follow these instructions carefully.

[mooses9]

you were right, i had them mixed up, i loaded the OF factory firmware onto it, switched the files around like you said and it worked perfectly, man i spent hours last night trying to find out what the deal was.

i have a question about settings, is there a way i can not have the song stop when i want to go to sound settings so i can adjust the settings while the music is playing? is there a crossfade or something going on there?

[Chronon]

It sounds like you're pressing Power/Menu instead of Submenu.  As is mentioned in the manual, the Submenu button is used to enter the main menu in Rockbox.  The Power/Menu button behaves as a stop button. 

Now that you have successfully installed Rockbox you can ask any additional questions in the appropriate forum.  Welcome.