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ThaCrip:

--- Quote from: Llorean on January 29, 2009, 01:08:55 AM ---You completely misunderstood what I said.

Not everyone uses playlist catalog, even if they do use playlists, as you can access playlists through the file browser. But if you wish to create playlists at all in Rockbox, there are situations where "Create Playlist" is the only effective way to do it.

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yes i do see playlist on the main menu but that's not what i mean, ill explain what i mean exactly below (for those who do use playlists)...

and sure, i aint saying to get rid of 'create playlist' i was basically just asking to 'swap' the way it's listed on the menu.... so instead of listing the 'create playlist' FIRST (like it is currently by default) and the 'view catalog' listed 4th on the list... i basically just wanted to swap the two... so 'view catalog' would be first and 'create playlist' would be last (or anything besides first listed) as this would save a little bit of time when USING the playlists is all ;)

because initially the way i suggested would add a little time to MAKING playlist... but in the long run it would be better since for those who do use playlists it would be more efficient since everytime you want to select the 'view catalog' you wont have to spend extra time scrolling down to it as it would be immediately selected once you enter the 'playlist' menu from the main menu.

that make more sense?

but yeah i would agree with you that not everyone uses the playlists... im just saying for people who do what i suggested seems slightly more efficient than the way the menu is currently setup now is all.

p.s. i did a clean install of v3.1 when i installed it if that matters.

Llorean:
I never said "not everyone uses playlists" because obviously our conversation is only relevant to people who do use them anyway. Read what I'm saying more carefully, and try it without the "assume he doesn't understand what I'm saying" bit.


People who DO use playlists may not EVER need playlist catalog, because it's entirely unnecessary. Playlists were supported and used for years in Rockbox before playlist catalog even existed.

ThaCrip:

--- Quote from: Llorean on January 29, 2009, 01:38:34 AM ---I never said "not everyone uses playlists." Read what I'm saying more carefully, and try it without the "assume he doesn't understand what I'm saying" bit.


People who DO use playlists may not EVER need playlist catalog, because it's entirely unnecessary. Playlists were supported and used for years in Rockbox before playlist catalog even existed.

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OK, i guess i just dont understand the basics of using a SAVED playlist for future use without using the catalog. if that can be done?

cause the only way i did it (which was explained in here a while ago to me) was that you create a playlist of songs you want and then after you power off the player and want to use that again you just goto the playlist catalog and then you can load up exactly what you wanted before.... which is the only way to do it right? (like i say i dont have much experience with playlists in general)

or are you saying if you make a playlist without the catalog it can still be used even after the DAP is turned off? ... do most people just make a playlist as it's needed and when the player is turned off it's lost?

sorry for the questions but i just dont understand WHY the create playlist is listed first over the 'view catalog' since 'create playlists' is ONLY good for MAKING playlists, right?

as you can see i dont think i understand the basic concept of playlists without doing it the way i did it unless maybe you create playlists temporarily per use of the player which as far as i can tell would be a pain in the butt.

Llorean:
You can run a playlist from the filetree just like selecting a song. The catalog is entirely unnecessary, it's just an alternative means of organizing and manipulating playlist.

You can save them anywhere in the filetree, and use them simply by clicking select on them.

You never, ever have to go into the 'playlists' menu to use playlists. Ever. It's completely optional.

Isn't creating, playing and saving playlists covered in the manual?

ThaCrip:

--- Quote from: Llorean on January 29, 2009, 01:48:07 AM ---You can run a playlist from the filetree just like selecting a song. The catalog is entirely unnecessary, it's just an alternative means of organizing and manipulating playlist.

You can save them anywhere in the filetree, and use them simply by clicking select on them.

You never, ever have to go into the 'playlists' menu to use playlists. Ever. It's completely optional.

Isn't creating, playing and saving playlists covered in the manual?

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OK ill have to play around with this til i figure it out ;)

and yes, it's covered in the manual but i dont think it's in a super easy to understand way i guess you could say. lol ( no offense ) (cause like i said before someone had to explain to me in these forums a while back on how to use it so the way im using it now is the only way i know how to use it with a saved playlist )

but now that we got that out of the way... IF you did want to use it the way im accessing it... i still think my original argument is valid even though it's very minor. ;) ... because what where talking about now seems like a different way of using the playlist which even though i thank you for your time and telling me how to use it in a different way i dont think it has much to do with my original suggestion.

no offense to anyone im just suggesting something is all and i thank everyone for there time ;)

EDIT: i think im somewhat seeing what you mean now as i just did this...

Files > HOLD DOWN SELECT then i can access 'playlist catalog' there, then view catalog.

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