Can you run rockbox if you format the iPod?

[itix]

Hi. I was wondering if you could run rockbox on the iPod if you format the iPod to the Third Extended File System (ext3).

I am so tired of having to rename the .ogg files every time I must move them to the iPod since the stupid FAT file system can't handle "?" in the file names.

I use Ex Falso to rename the files which has led to the fact that every song that is a question now can't be moved to the iPod (yes I know about the "strip windows incompatible characters", but the entire collection is already named).

I don't need the original OS to work, I just need rockbox to run properly and play my ogg vorbis music.

Thanx.

[saratoga]

Hi. I was wondering if you could run rockbox on the iPod if you format the iPod to the Third Extended File System (ext3).

No.  Rockbox requires FAT.

[itix]

Oh...

Damn. The shitty FAT-system just got corrupted for the third time in two weeks. It sure isn't rockbox fault either because it was the same story when I just had the original operating system.

I HATE the FAT file system.

Oh well... I'll just reformat the shit again then.

Thanx anyway

[saratoga]

Damn. The shitty FAT-system just got corrupted for the third time in two weeks.

If you manage to corrupt your file system, its probably something wrong with your PC. 

[itix]

I have two PC's, both of which run Ubuntu. I am pretty sure that Ubuntu has NOT corrupted the file system since I had the problem before I had Ubuntu.

[Zardoz]

http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

[itix]

Oh, thanx. My kernel most certainly is higher than 2.0.34. It is 2.6.27-8-eeepc to be exact.
I'll just reformat the iPod again. Thank you for the help.

[bluebrother]

I have two PC's, both of which run Ubuntu. I am pretty sure that Ubuntu has NOT corrupted the file system since I had the problem before I had Ubuntu.

Well, then some other OS might have corrupted the file system. The file system itself works fine -- at least for some users of Rockbox ...
You might want to use windows chkdsk /f to check the filesystem -- at least from my experience that works better than fsck.vfat.

http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html

No idea what you want to tell with this .

[itix]

Well... Ubuntu says that it is a read only file system and I can not change any permissions. The iPod also has a lot of files with what appears to be randomly named files (Just random letters and "#¤"-s).

I'm wondering if some blocks in the hard drive might be bust...

[Zardoz]

Sorry dude.

[bluebrother]

Well... Ubuntu says that it is a read only file system and I can not change any permissions. The iPod also has a lot of files with what appears to be randomly named files (Just random letters and "#¤"-s).

Sounds pretty much like a broken filesystem.

I'm wondering if some blocks in the hard drive might be bust...

Possible, but using a different file system wouldn't have made much of a difference then.

[itix]

Possible, but using a different file system wouldn't have made much of a difference then.

I'm not so sure about that. The extended file system is a bit more robust than FAT. The native extended file system check is a bit better supported that the vfat-file system check.

It is also easier to run sudo badblocks on an extended file system.

[safetydan]

The first question I'd ask is if you're correctly unmounting the device before unplugging it? If you don't you can easily corrupt the filesystem, and this applies no matter the filesystem as well.

[itix]

Yep... Or well. Not ALWAYS, but most of the time. If I charge it in any of our windows computers there is no use trying since it always fails to eject the device. Ubuntu does sometimes but works most of the time.

I guess that is a possibility actually. I think I need to be more careful in the future.

[bluebrother]

Yep... Or well. Not ALWAYS, but most of the time. If I charge it in any of our windows computers there is no use trying since it always fails to eject the device. Ubuntu does sometimes but works most of the time.

I guess that is a possibility actually. I think I need to be more careful in the future.

Well, operating systems cache parts of the filesystem (most notably the FAT itself). If you unplug the player without unmounting it you can trash the filesystem or damage it. In windows you can somewhat minimize this risk by enabling the "optimize for fast removal" option (or something like that), but in general, if you unplug the player without unmounting you are quite likely to cause damage to the filesystem.

This would be the cause for other filesystems as well, btw ...