Scramling 1G & 2G

[rangi_chip]

What line of code do I use to scramble something for the 1G and 2G?

I've used scramble before for all the other generations... just need these last 2.

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cd c:/rockbox/tools
./scramble -add=xxxx c:/example.bin c:/example.ipod

What code(s) would I use in place of 'xxxx'?
I couldn't figure out which one(s) from the ./scramble help.

I'm guessing the following codes are correct...(please correct me if I'm wrong)

ipco = iPod 4G (Color/Photo)
nano = iPod Nano 1G
ipvd = iPod 5G (Video)
mn2g = iPod Mini 2G
ip3g = iPod 3G
ip4g = iPod 4G (Monochrome)
mini = iPod Mini 1G

Where do the 1G & 2G fit in?


Cheers

[AlexP]

As a note, the Classic refers to the new 6th gen only.  Referring to the old full size ipods as classics is just going to confuse

[rangi_chip]

I thought that's what they would be called, read this.


EDIT: And for everyone's info, it's "1g2g".

[Llorean]

If you're posting on our forums, "using the terms we need you to us to avoid confusing other users" is not beside the point. The problem we get is that people read posts like yours, get confused, and think we have support for the Classic and just haven't announced it yet. This causes further confusion when they go and tell other people and so on.

So, while I'm sure you'd like help, and you'll probably get it eventually, don't tell people it's beside the point when they ask you to adhere by the terms we use throughout the rest of the site to help avoid confusion.

As it is, it's not necessary to scramble in the official install process. What are you trying to accomplish?

[rangi_chip]

Posts have been edited to avoid unwanted confusion.

Had to look inside the scramble.c file to find the appropriate option code "1g2g" to scramble something for that generation iPod.

That option code doesn't come up when you access the scramble help screen:

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cd c:/rockbox/tools
./scramble

Should not all models be on that help screen?

Anyway, I'm sorted thanks to Der Papst over at iPL.

[AlexP]

Thanks for clearing up the confusion, Llorean has nicely explained why it is important.  As a further note, referencing wikipedia proves nothing as due to its nature it is inherently unreliable.  Useful for getting an overview, but not much else.

[rangi_chip]

Okay then. Didin't mean to confuse the situation.

The models are:
Classic (1G, 2G, 3G, 4G, 4G (color/photo), 5G, 6G)
Mini (1G, 2G)
Nano (1G, 2G, 3G, 4G)
Shuffle (1G, 2G)
Touch (1G, 2G)

though no? With their respective generations...

[Llorean]

When iPod initially released the 6G it was released as the "iPod Classic" (note capitalization and use of Classic as part of a proper noun).

They later came back and said "We'll be referring to the original form factor as the classic line" (note lowercase, use as an adjective). This was a later decision they made, and announced at a separate time. People have taken this to mean "All previous iPods should be called the Classic model" but in reality, it's just the normal use of "classic" in English as a way to distinguish that form factor's line compared to the other form factors. So "the classic 1G iPod" would denote the 1st generation of iPods ever, while "the iPod 1G Classic" will promote significant confusion as to whether you mean the first iPod, or the first iPod of the new iPod Classic models (the 80/160GB versions as opposed to the newer 120GB versions). Since the first one isn't strictly clear either, we ask people to avoid calling anything but the 6G the "Classic" (to be noted: the 120GB is, as far as I know, still a 6G, swapping the hard disk is not a generational change).

This is where the confusion comes in. The form factor is "classic" but the proper noun name for the 6G iPod is the "iPod Classic" much like the 4G with colour screens were called "iPod Color" and "iPod Photo".

For the purposes of this forum, the iPod Classic when used as a proper noun is the 6G, but you should simply call earlier iPods "the 1G iPod" etc.

[rangi_chip]

Okay, that's that then. I'll abide by this next time.